Latest hatch!!! (cinnamon pieds included)

Discussion in 'Guinea Fowl' started by bemba, Nov 26, 2012.

  1. bemba

    bemba Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi guys, I know it's non breeding season for you so even more reason to share some cuteness :) Pearl, lavendar and cinnamon keets (all pied) The pearls are very variable in colour this hatch? not sure why.
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    And look! 2 cinnamon pieds! and quite nicely pied too! I was beginning to think I wouldn't get any cinnamons this season, but here they are..... Little vampires haha. Also a lav and pearl pied.
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    The 2 cinnamon pieds! Check out those eyes!
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    This handsome fellow could very well be dad........
     
  2. JLeigh

    JLeigh Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Adorable keets! That is one handsome pied, too. Thanks for the pictures, because it's good to see keets anytime.
     
  3. rosy153

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    They're so cute! I can't wait till the spring so I can get some!
     
  4. PeepsCA

    PeepsCA Chillin' With My Peeps

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    BEMBA!!!! I insist that you stuff that handsome Pied Cinnamon male in a suitcase and come for a visit this coming March! I just need to borrow him for a week or so... I have a line up of Guinea Girls for him to take care of (you don't mind pimping him out do ya??? Guaranteed he will go home happy!) And of course you are welcome to bring a 2nd suitcase and take it home stuffed full of eggs from my flocks, lol [​IMG]

    Cute keets indeed, WEIRD red eyes tho!
     
  5. bemba

    bemba Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You likey then :p Yeah he is very nice! He looked the same as the 2 new keets just hatched! Amd OMG YESSS I'd love that imagine all those colours!.............. I'm now really hoping for a silver pied to pop up.
     
  6. cowcreekgeek

    cowcreekgeek Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Those are gonna be some fine lookin' guineas ... I'm down to 11 guineas now, but I've two pretty pied greys (but, yours are gonna look far better ~'-)
     
  7. bemba

    bemba Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks :) I've really worked hard to get these pieds to where they are, interesting how your pieds throw a percentage of white keets, like pied peafowl do, I wonder if our pied is a different pied gene?
     
  8. bemba

    bemba Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Some lav pieds feathering out quite nicely pied!
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    Younger keets doing really well....
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    And some adult cinnamons, inteesting the variance in colour between these two.
     
  9. cowcreekgeek

    cowcreekgeek Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'm gonna take opportunity to test my understanding of how guinea fowl's genetics work, 'cause I'm just gettin' started here ...

    In regard to especially the brown colors, which are reportedly sex-linked: If true, then males require both parents to carry the gene of their color, but females only require either parent to carry the gene ... is that true of your cinnamon birds as well?

    Important way to test the theory of sex-linking: If it is true, then breeding a cinnamon male to any other color hen should produce only females that are cinnamon, and all of the males will carry on the coloring of their mother. In the buff colors, it is said that all females are considerably darker than the males, which might have something to do w/ dilution or the dark shade variant (DSV), but that's well beyond me for now.

    And, of the pearling? We (in the US) have full, semi and non-pearled guineas, whereas Europe has only full and semi-pearled birds, which I find no explanation for, and could provide further hints as to how the pied genes come into play ...

    Some say pied birds are the result of two different traits -- one for the white color, and the other for the pattern. When coupled w/ the theories of sex-linked color for the brown birds, that might explain why you see absolutely no all white birds. In any case? The most beautiful of all guineas I've ever seen, without a doubt, are your cinnamon pied. And, to know the specifics of their generations would sure clear a few things up for me ~'-)
     
  10. bemba

    bemba Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok so our cinnamon birds are 100% recessive, I started with a cinnamon pied cock bird he was mated to 2 pearl pied hens they produced roughly 40 keets all of which were pearl pieds and I had roughly 50 50 ratio on the sexes, so if it were sex linked you would have half the chicks cinnamon pied and they would all be female, no other colour female could be produced and all male would have been pearl pied splits, same no other male colours produced so sexed on hatching. But they were not, all were pearl pieds. There are still some who believe they have sex linked cinnamons, but it is possible they have a different cinnamon mutation but highly unlikely!

    Here are a few updated pics of the keets! Not so small anymore!
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    The hen at the front of the pic below and the pic below that has a lot more white creeping down underneath, So I will mate her to my most pied male next season!
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