lathargic, not eating, bloody stool????

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by chickencity, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. chickencity

    chickencity Chillin' With My Peeps

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    i went to let the chickens out this morning and noticed that one of my RIR was not interested in going out. she just kinda walked outside then stood there and went to sleep. i put out feed for girls and she would not touch it but wanted some water. i watched her for a while and noticed that her stool was lose and bloody. after looking in the run i noticed that there was about 3 piles like that. so i put her in a pen by herself. and moved the run. then i noticed that there was more blood. so im guessing that all of my chickens (9) have caught something. i had to put them in the run with the goats about 3 days ago b/c all of that rain and wind took out a leg on my coop and the poor chickens were walking sideways. could they have gotten something from the goats? im going to TSC what should i buy?
     
  2. chickenlady

    chickenlady Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 28, 2007
    Stillwater, NJ
    Sounds like cocci. I would get sulmet for thier drinking water and treat them immediatly.
     
  3. erinm

    erinm Posting For A change

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    could be worms also. i had two doing the same thing{ thay both passed on} and it was worms. now everyone is right as rain and i have not seen a yellow or bloody poops in days! Erinm
     
  4. chickencity

    chickencity Chillin' With My Peeps

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    well i went to tractor supply and they didn't have anything that said it treated cocci. so i got some de-wormer and a antibiotic terymicthin(sp) should i start both of those on the same day? how much of the powder anti do i put ina gallon of water?
     
  5. chickenlady

    chickenlady Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 28, 2007
    Stillwater, NJ
    Terrimycin will not help you. If you are treating for cocci, you need to find sulmet or corid. Might be for swine.
     
  6. dlhunicorn

    dlhunicorn Human Encyclopedia

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    capillaria is what is associated with bloody stools (could also be cocci) ...
    what wormer did you get from the feed store (I ask as the "approved" wormers are often very specific and not broad spectrum) ???
    http://www.msstate.edu/dept/poultry/disparas.htm
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    "Capillaria (Capillary or Thread Worms)
    There are several species of Capillaria that occur in poultry. Capillaria annulata and Capillaria contorta occur in the crop and esophagus. These may cause thickening and inflammation of the mucosa, and occasionally severe losses are sustained in turkeys and game birds.
    In the lower intestinal tract there may be several different species but usually Capillaria obsignata is the most prevalent. The life cycle of this parasite is direct. The adult worms may be embedded in the lining of the intestine. The eggs are laid and passed in the droppings. Following embryonation that takes six to eight days, the eggs are infective to any other poultry that may eat them. The most severe damage occurs within two weeks of infection. The parasites frequently produce severe inflammation and sometimes cause hemorrhage. Erosion of the intestinal lining may be extensive and result in death. These parasites may become a severe problem in deep litter houses. Reduced growth, egg production and fertility may result from heavy infections.

    If present in large numbers, these parasites are usually easy to find at necropsy. Eggs may be difficult to find in droppings, due to the small size and time of infection.

    Since treatment for capillaria is often lacking, control is best achieved by preventive measures. Some drugs, fed at low levels, may be of value in reducing the level of infection on problem farms. Game birds should be raised on wire to remove the threat of infection. As some species of capillaria have an indirect life cycle, control measures may have to be directed toward the intermediate host. Hygromycin and meldane may be used for control. Additional vitamin A may be of value. Effective treatments that are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration are fenbendazole and leviamisole."
     
  7. chickencity

    chickencity Chillin' With My Peeps

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    i got wazine-17 thats the only de-wormer they had. so should i not give them the antibiotic? the chicken that i separated is passing a lot of blood but has only used the bathroom 3 times in 10 hours.
     
  8. chickencity

    chickencity Chillin' With My Peeps

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    seems like there might also be a slight smell
     
  9. lilchick

    lilchick Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I bought a packet of Corid at farm supply store and it works quickly on cocci. Same as what is in medicated chick feed.
     
  10. dlhunicorn

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    Wazine will not treat the capilaria (if it is due to worms and not cocci >please note it could easily be both) ... go back to the feed store and see if they have ivomec Eprinex (see the photo in the link below) ivomec Eprinex is a broad spectrum (treats most all the different worms and even some external parasites) and when you give the spot-on treatment on the skin at the base of the neck (see article for how much) then the next day you can start on treating for the cocci with sulmet (in the waterer). This way both posibilities will be handled and your birds (all of them) will be wormed (which if you have not done up till now is probably needed even with those not showing symptoms.)
    http://shilala.homestead.com/ivomec.html

    (Your feed store will not have this product in the chicken section as it is not "approved" for poultry >this has to do with testing and eventual concerns about resistance in humans... it is one of the safest wormers and the least taxing on the bird) >if they do not have it (the specific product specified in the article) then you can easily find an online source.
     
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