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List of breeds that can be auto-sexed

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Blackberry18, Jul 23, 2015.

  1. Blackberry18

    Blackberry18 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi, so I'm wondering if anyone could list several breeds that can be auto-sexed and how (male and female differences). I really do not want to be directed to a different thread; believe me, I have done my homework. Sometimes, threads can be confusing. Really, the only one I can think of are Sex-Links and Legbars. Also, for clarification, male Legbar chicks are solid colored with a small white spot on their head, while females are chipmunk-marked. So, if a chick is chipmunk-marked with a spot on it's head, is it male or female? Does anyone know for sure, or does it vary? Thank you.
     
  2. GitaBooks

    GitaBooks Chillin' With My Peeps Premium Member

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    I'd love to help!

    I'm sure you know some of these breeds, but I thought I'd write them all:

    Black-Star (also called Black Sex-link and other titles): Females are black with red on the necks, males are barred
    Red Star (Red Sex-link, Cinnamon Queen, ect): Females are red with some white feathers and males are white with some red feathers
    Legbar (come in cream and gold colorations): One is sandy tan and another is chipmunked
    Fifty Five Flowery Hen: http://greenfirefarms.com/new/
    Welbar: pics http://www.harislau.info/welbar
    Rhodebar: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/582327/the-rhodebar-thread (I think it has pictures, sorry its a thread [​IMG])
    Niederrheiner: Sorry, there isn't much information on them
    Isbar: Can be difficult to tell apart, especially in rare colors like Blue
    Bielefelder: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/727364/a-bielefelder-thread for pics


    Here are some helpful pictures: http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGA/Auto/BRKAutosex.html


    I hope this helps! [​IMG]
     
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  3. Blackberry18

    Blackberry18 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks so much!
     
  4. chicken pickin

    chicken pickin Overrun With Chickens

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    Cream Legbars can be identified by their markings at hatch. You just need to know what to look for when identifying them. Its not as simple as chipmunk marked for female and head spot for male.

    They can come in dark and light shades for both male and female. Also both male and females can have head spots, chipmunk markings and eyeliner.

    Male and female are identified using the difference in the size and shape (or lack) of head spot, distinct vs fuzzy chipmunk pattern, also distinct vs fuzzy eye liner. Often males have a cooler grayish tone also though not always and females typically have a slight warmer tone.

    -Males have large splotchy head spots, fuzzy non distinct chipmunk pattern, sometimes males lack chipmunk pattern. Males have fuzzy non distinct eyeliner sometimes no eyeliner. Typically males will have cooler toned down in shades of gray, Some males are very blonde.

    -Females are always to have a very distinct chipmunk pattern, as well as dark distinct eyeliner, they also have a distinct V on their heads. They are often warmer toned in down color in shades of tan and dark brown with a golden or reddish tone(sometimes females can be blondish in color but still have the distinct markings). Females can also have a head spot, though a females head spot is small and tight (sometimes females have no visible head spot).


    Here are some examples from my flock and it shows that males and females can come in many different colors and patterns,

    Here is a pullet on left, cockerel on right top view (note they both have head spots only they are different)
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    same pair from sideveiw here you can see the difference in eyeliner, pullets has a dark distinct line, the males is softer and indistinct
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    2 light colored (blondish) cockerels not showing much of chipmunk marks but still showing head spots and 1 pullet
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    4 pullets and 2 darker downed, chipmunk marked, cockerels (note the the 2 cockerels have large head spots and have a slight cooler toned down color, different than the 4 females)
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    4 distinct chipmunk marked pullets (not you can see on the bottom chick her head spot though it is small and tight)
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    same 4 Pullets with dark eyeliner
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    Pullet showing her head spot but also distinct markings also warmer toned down
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    Cockerel showing large head spot with indistinct chipmunk markings and is cooler in down color.
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    Here is a cockerel that is lacking chipmunk markings and has a head spot
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  5. Blackberry18

    Blackberry18 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    chicken pickin - Thank you for explaining that!
     
  6. chicken pickin

    chicken pickin Overrun With Chickens

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    Your Welcome! If there are any other questions about how to sex Cream Legbars please ask. I think I covered most of it but often people get confused.
     
  7. Blackberry18

    Blackberry18 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You certainly cleared it up for me! Do you mind if I used one of your pics for a project on Sex-Links, Auto-sexing, and Sexing Young Birds (which was the main reason why I started this thread)?
     
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  8. PaintsRule

    PaintsRule Out Of The Brooder

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    Okay Auto-sexing (not to be confused with sex linked-that is when you cross 2 different breeds to get chicks you can sex at hatch), I have 6 breeds of autosexing (well 5 for sure,and the 6th I am told you can but another person told me possibly not but since its a breed to raise for meat it really doesnt matter).
    Crested Cream Legbar (blue eggs)
    Rhodebar (brown eggs)
    Silver Dorkings (white eggs)
    Wellsummers (darker than normal but not as dark as Marans-brown eggs)
    Bielefelders (brown eggs)
    And the not for sure
    Cuckoo Malines
     
  9. varidgerunner

    varidgerunner Chillin' With My Peeps

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    There are many more than people realize. The problem is accuracy. The birds have to be pure and possibly even intensively line bred to get any kind of accuracy. Rhode Island Reds were originally autosexing, but you won't get much accuracy trying to do it with hatchery RIR. You can get fair results from most barred birds. Hatchery birds usually have some other genes hiding from whatever they were crossed with. Many obscure strains of game fowl can be auto-sexed, some strains of Morgan Whitehackle American game, for instance. Probably has much to do with their purity and the fact that nobody has mixed in white Leghorn to get them to fill up incubators. Cream Legbars probably won't have much accuracy if they ever become a common hatchery offering.
     
  10. 3riverschick

    3riverschick Poultry Lit Chaser

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    My Light Sussex can be feather sexed with 100% accuracy. This is because, after they were imported from England many years ago, they were developed in Canada. I read many years ago the Canadians got real excited about feather sexing. So they developed feather sexing into breeds not normally known for it. Including my Light Sussex. My flock descends from an English flock imported years ago by another breeder and bred in Montana. I got my birds from him. he is no longer breeding poultry.
    Best Regards,
    Karen
    Breeder of the Tewart flock of pure English strain Light Sussex.
     
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