Lites or mites and yellow poop!

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  1. silkiecuddles

    silkiecuddles FortheLoveofSilkies

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    One of my Speckled Sussex hens has been "slow" the past few days. Looking closely at her yesterday, she had a little teensy white bug on her. I'm assuming there are many more. The base of each feather looks kinda white and powdery. Is that indication of mites or lice?
    And another hen has been having a couple yellow runny (not extremely runny) poo.
    Today I dusted the SS with mites/lice with DE and I got it up under her feathers really well. I got all the bedding (leaves and hay) out of the coop.
    My hens have been laying very little the past few weeks, I'm assuming because of the mites/lice. I read this today on Fresh Eggs Daily Blog
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    Mix 2 cups of salt into 2 gallons of warm water. Soak the hen for 10 minutes, then soak her for five minutes in a tub of 2 gallons of warm water with 1/2 cup of Dawn dishwashing liquid and 1/2 cup of white vinegar mixed in. The lice should drown and float to the top. Rinse her well and dry her thoroughly. Dust with food-grade Diatomaceous Earth. Repeat every other day or so until you no longer see evidence of the lice.
    Apply coconut oil every day for five days.
    Squirt apple cider vinegar onto the affected hens where you see the lice.
    Essential oils sprayed onto the affected hens that kill lice include: lavender, rosemary, clove, thyme, anise, cinnamon leaf, red thyme, peppermint, nutmeg

    Has anyone been successful with any of those things?
     
  2. TwoCrows

    TwoCrows Show me the way old friend... Staff Member

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    Sounds like you do have a case of external buggies. You can bath them in dog flea and tick shampoo to kill the lice and the mites. Sevin dust is not recommended for poultry anymore, but it does a heck of a job on lice. Permethrin sprays of all kinds will kill these things off. Do this every 5 days or so to keep the bugs under control.

    And strip down the coop once a week, nest boxes too and powder, spray and what have you in all cracks of the coop, nest boxes and under the roost bar where mites like to lay their eggs.

    This can take about a month to get a hold of, but once you do, you can turn to the more healthier stuff and use DE on the floors, nest boxes and birds. DE works well as prevention, but can't handle infestations.

    As for the yellow poop, generally when a bird has external bugs, they also have internal bugs as well. I would get your birds wormed ASAP. Yellow thin diarrhea like urates can mean a blockage is starting to form in the intestines. Get them wormed with some Safeguard. Either the Liquid Goat wormer or the Equine paste.

    Yellow urates can also be internal infection, but I am leaning toward the internal worms since they have external parasites as well.

    Keep us posted! :)
     
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    silkiecuddles FortheLoveofSilkies

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    TwoCrows Show me the way old friend... Staff Member

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    They make permethrin sprays for birds that you can spray on the skin. You will need to blow or pull back the feathers so you get this stuff on the skin. Some people won't use Sevin dust. I have used it with no issues, although it is no longer a chemical on the list safe for poultry. It will kill all bugs. You can use either or of these and it should take care of the bugs. I prefer permethrin spray for the coop however. I can spray it up under the roost bar and get it in corners I can't with powder or Seven dust.

    You can use the Safeguard Horse Paste, which you can even get at Walmart in the horse section. A pea sized dolup on a piece of bread for each bird, once a day for 3 days. Repeat in 10 days. I use the Safeguard Liquid Goat Wormer which you can get at TSC in the horse section.

    Bleach is a good cleaner for feeders or waterers but won't hurt bugs. So in this case, no bleach is needed for poop in the coop.
     
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    silkiecuddles FortheLoveofSilkies

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    Ok. We have safeguard horse wormer, so I'll do that. Do I need to do all the birds? (I've got 14, and half of them aren't the friendliest)
     
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    Generally when one has worms, so do the others. So it is best to do them all at the same time if you can. :)
     
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    silkiecuddles FortheLoveofSilkies

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    The wormer I've got is Strongid Paste (pyrantel pamoate) for Equine
     
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    I have never used this drug, but it will kill off round worms and hook worms well enough.
     
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    silkiecuddles FortheLoveofSilkies

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    Only one hen has the white stuff around her feather base. Is that lice eggs?
    Then two have the yellow poop. This morning I gave everyone a piece of bread with a dot of wormer on it. I think everyone got some, it was kinda hectic. I put more DE on the slow hen (with the white stuff)
     

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