I have 2 LG still air incubators that have worked well for me one of which is almost 20 years old. I recently purchased a hovabator Genesis with turner and an electronic preset thermostat. My new incubator has made it easier to turn eggs when I am busy elsewhere. What it didn't do was raise my live hatch rate. I get the same hatch rates from all of my incubators. I can own 2 LG with turners for the same money as My Hovabator , or 4 without the turners. I have had good results with my LG. I think it wrong to bad mouth the LG when that is all that is available (for many people)in the $50 dollar range. It is an inexpensive incubator that works. There are better incubators out there but all cost more.