Making of an Olive Egger

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Fanci Feathers Marans, Dec 24, 2018.

  1. Fanci Feathers Marans

    Fanci Feathers Marans Chicken Tender

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    So I've had some experience with Olive eggers, right? Right. However, its only been with Marans over Easter Egger hens. Since I love the cheekpuffs, and I'm down to one EE and one F3 Olive Egger, I thought I'd buy some more chicks come Spring.

    So here's my question: what is the difference between EasterEggerxMarans vs AmeraucanaxMarans as far as egg color? Has anyone had any first-had experience? Pictures?
     
  2. ChickenCanoe

    ChickenCanoe Crossing the Road

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    I can't help with that question but wanted to mention that Penedesencas contribute to some lovely olive eggs. I imagine that Welsummers would too.
     
  3. Fanci Feathers Marans

    Fanci Feathers Marans Chicken Tender

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    Thanks for the response! The Olive eggers are just going to be a side project for my Marans. I don't intend to get Welsummers. I'm not familiar with Penedesencanas, but I know from experience that the cheekpuffs are very friendly and I like them for that.


    @AMERAUCANAS4REAL tells me that AmeraucanaxMarans will give me a 1st gen Easter Eggers and might possibly result in some mixed breed brown eggers, which I don't want. However... I'd be taking that risk by buying EE chicks, too.

    I'm still conflicted
     
  4. CCUK

    CCUK Free Flying

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    I have a araucana cockerals that is in with my cuckoo marans and white leghorns. I'm going to hatch some eggs next year from them so I'm hoping for some dark green olive eggers from the marans. But from what I understand it's not always as simple as that!
     
  5. AMERAUCANAS4REAL

    AMERAUCANAS4REAL Crossing the Road

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    EExMarans
    (Fictional genotypes)
    O=green
    B= brown
    Blue eggerxmarans
    bbOOxBBoo= BbOo green
    Olive egger(F1)xmarans
    BbOoxBBoo= BBOo green, BBoo brown, BbOo green, and Bboo brown
    Olive Egger(F2 or other)xMarans
    BBOoxBBoo= BBOo green, BBoo brown
    Olive Egger(breeds true)xMarans
    BBOOxBBoo= BBOo green
    EE (blue layerxwhite layer)x Marans
    bbOoxBBoo= BbOo green, Bboo brown

    Shades of green and brown are variable.



    AmeraucanaxMarans
    bbOOxBBoo= BbOo green
     
  6. It's going to all depends on the specific genetics of the bird. An Ameraucana (pure) will lay blue eggs, so you're putting the brown on top of that. An EE *often* already has some brown parentage so you get some green in the egg. (Not always, like I said, depends on the bird itself.) So theoretically your EE x Maran will give a slightly darker egg than an Ameraucana x Maran. Keep in mind that when I say Ameraucana, I'm talking about the bred to SOP, not the "Americana" (EE) that's often sold...
     
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  7. AMERAUCANAS4REAL

    AMERAUCANAS4REAL Crossing the Road

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    ? I'm confused.
    I said AmxMarans gives you all F1 Olive Eggers.
     
  8. AMERAUCANAS4REAL

    AMERAUCANAS4REAL Crossing the Road

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    AmxWelsummer
    (No pix of eggs, but trust me, their olive colored.)
    IMG_20181113_1601035_rewind.1.jpg
     
  9. Fanci Feathers Marans

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    You told me this before, and for the second time, I still don't understand.
     
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  10. Fanci Feathers Marans

    Fanci Feathers Marans Chicken Tender

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    WELL THATS WHAT I DEDUCED from all the gobbledy-gook you sent me.
     
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  11. AMERAUCANAS4REAL

    AMERAUCANAS4REAL Crossing the Road

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    I understand better with genotypes, but if you insist.
    Problem is, with just phenotypes, there are unknown variables.
    EExMaran
    Blue eggerxmarans green
    Olive egger(F1)xmarans
    green, brown, green, and brown
    Olive Egger(F2 or other)xMarans
    brown
    Olive Egger(breeds true)xMarans
    green
    EE (blue layerxwhite layer)x Marans
    green, brown

    Shades of green and brown are variable.



    AmeraucanaxMarans
    green
    @RoseQuartz you are the most knowledgeable person I know on this subject. Please help
     
  12. AMERAUCANAS4REAL

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    :he autocorrect and slow internet are working together against me! @Rose Quartz
     
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