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Marek's 2 homeopathic recipes - worth a try

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Phyll'sFarmFamily, May 10, 2009.

  1. Phyll'sFarmFamily

    Phyll'sFarmFamily Chillin' With My Peeps

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    When I was searching Marek's disease I found 2 different homeopathic remedies/recipes at The Happy Hen House.
    I thought that it was worth a try so I have been using both to treat my girl. She is doing better after 2 weeks so I am going to keep treating her.

    One uses cranberry, brazil nut, garlic, and pomegranate and the other uses hypericum.

    CRANBERRY, BRAZIL NUT, GARLIC, AND POMEGRANATE

    Treatment:
    Every morning and evening
    Put 3 or 4 cranberries – fresh if possible if not canned will be fine
    1 whole Brazil nut, no shell of course
    All into a blender and using a crop tube put into the hen’s crop
    Or force-feed these items cutting the Brazil nut up into quarters to force feed to the hen

    This will be all the protein and calcium she'll need for the day.

    Instead of water put out a fifty fifty mixture of Pom wonderful and Gatorade.
    If she can’t drink on her own you will have to soak a piece of bread and feed her that way or with an eyedropper. .
    She will need about five tablespoons in the morning and three at night.

    Evenings:
    Poke a whole garlic clove down her gullet with two less cranberries.

    This is a blood thinner.
    You may want to also take the opportunity to spray her with one of the pet store versions of lice spray.
    Parasites end up eating a bird in this condition alive, as they can no longer dust bathe.

    Cranberry juice
    Is used to treat urinary tract infections in people - it acidifies the urine, making the bladder unwelcome to bacteria

    Pom wonderful:
    Pom wonderful is a juice for people. They sell it in just about every supermarket. No water just Pom wonderful - use one part regular human strength Gatorade per three parts Pom wonderful
    I have seen Pom juice in my local Asian market. Might call around or make a shopping trip though it is not something lots of people in my part of the world drink, it apparently is quite popular among those who have emigrated here from other parts of the world. I will have to try it some time.

    HYPERICUM

    - 1 tablespoon of DISTILLED water per tablet Hypericum (must be distilled water, tap water is ionized and will deactivate the Hypericum)
    - MUST be mixed in a GLASS or PLASTIC bowl (metal with react with the water and herb)
    - drip 5-10 drops (bantam) or 10-15 drops (large fowl) on the afflicted bird's tongue. Be sure the bird rubs its beak together because the Hypericum MUST touch the sinuses (located on the roof of the mouth) in order to work
    - treat every 12 hours (morning and night) with a fresh batch
    - recovery may be as quick as 1 day or as slow as several months

    The treatment works best if you begin treating early. If you delay treatment, the Hypericum may not work or it may be a very slow recovery. IF YOU OVERDOSE YOUR BIRDS ON HYPERICUM, don't worry. The bird will exhibit extreme symptoms, and make a drastic improvement within a 24 hours. Hypericum is also helpful for pain. Only treat birds that are showing symptoms.​
     
  2. RThomas

    RThomas Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Good to hear she is doing better, but just a quick correction. Sounds like you used "naturopathic" treatment, not homeopathic.

    I can't account for the effectiveness of naturopathy, but homeopathic "medicine" doesn't do anything more than possibly placebo (which wouldn't work on animals anyway).
     
  3. Phyll'sFarmFamily

    Phyll'sFarmFamily Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Just looked up the definition of both. Guess there are a lot of us that incorrectly use the two interchangeably.

    Thanks for the correction – it should be "naturopathic" remedy.
     
  4. mypicklebird

    mypicklebird Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 8, 2008
    Sonoma Co, CA
    This is a LONG post, sorry for this- but these recipes make my hair stand on end!!!

    The person who created these is suspect in their chicken knowledge, and I find this first recipe rather scary. I would not recommend following either of these. Alternative medicine has it's merits, but these recipes look more like- 'lets see what I have in my cupboard and try to rationalize why I should shove this down my chicken's throat'

    Why talk about cranberries and human bladder infections? Chickens don't even have bladders and they do not make liquid urine like people do. Cranberries are a nice treat, but chickens don't get bladder infections. Recommending cranberries to promote bladder health in a chicken is silly.

    Garlic is a 'blood thinner' does this person know what that means in general? Blood thinner in human medicine is a drug that decreases clotting ability (like warfarin). Not helpful. Garlic and onions in large amounts destroy red blood cells- and cause hemolytic anemia. I can't think how anemia would be helpful to fight a viral infection. Unless this person also subscribes to the bloodletting therapies.

    Hypericum aka St. John's wort- used in human alternative medicine for some depression disorders, alcoholism, ect. Also believed to have some antibacterial properties. Depression is not the issue with the Mareks virus, nor alcoholism. Mild antibacterial properties is of interest to me, but Mareks is not a bacteria- it is a virus, the birds succumb to progressive paralysis of major nerves (due to growth of tumors)- not a secondary bacterial infection. So I do not think hypericum is useful in this case.

    Nuts and pomegranate juice I have no objection to.

    The classic Mareks bird has progressive leg paralysis due to viral induced tumors in the sciatic nerves. These birds do not typically get better. If you have a bird that seemed to have Mareks symptoms, but got better with TLC, if probably did not have Mareks- it probably had something else that cause weak legs- like a pelvic fracture. Always remember the diagnosis is not made on looking at a weak or limping bird- it is a diagnosis on necropsy.

    Also remember that TLC to a mareks bird is prolonging the time that this bird is spreading infectious feather dander all over your farm. If you suspect Mareks in your flock, confirm it with a necropsy at your state lab, start culling affected birds, and replace only with properly vaccinated chickens. The virus will stay active in the environment for years.



    Phyll'sFarmFamily :

    When I was searching Marek's disease I found 2 different homeopathic remedies/recipes at The Happy Hen House.
    I thought that it was worth a try so I have been using both to treat my girl. She is doing better after 2 weeks so I am going to keep treating her.

    One uses cranberry, brazil nut, garlic, and pomegranate and the other uses hypericum.

    CRANBERRY, BRAZIL NUT, GARLIC, AND POMEGRANATE

    Treatment:
    Every morning and evening
    Put 3 or 4 cranberries – fresh if possible if not canned will be fine
    1 whole Brazil nut, no shell of course
    All into a blender and using a crop tube put into the hen’s crop
    Or force-feed these items cutting the Brazil nut up into quarters to force feed to the hen

    This will be all the protein and calcium she'll need for the day.

    Instead of water put out a fifty fifty mixture of Pom wonderful and Gatorade.
    If she can’t drink on her own you will have to soak a piece of bread and feed her that way or with an eyedropper. .
    She will need about five tablespoons in the morning and three at night.

    Evenings:
    Poke a whole garlic clove down her gullet with two less cranberries.

    This is a blood thinner.
    You may want to also take the opportunity to spray her with one of the pet store versions of lice spray.
    Parasites end up eating a bird in this condition alive, as they can no longer dust bathe.

    Cranberry juice
    Is used to treat urinary tract infections in people - it acidifies the urine, making the bladder unwelcome to bacteria

    Pom wonderful:
    Pom wonderful is a juice for people. They sell it in just about every supermarket. No water just Pom wonderful - use one part regular human strength Gatorade per three parts Pom wonderful
    I have seen Pom juice in my local Asian market. Might call around or make a shopping trip though it is not something lots of people in my part of the world drink, it apparently is quite popular among those who have emigrated here from other parts of the world. I will have to try it some time.

    HYPERICUM

    - 1 tablespoon of DISTILLED water per tablet Hypericum (must be distilled water, tap water is ionized and will deactivate the Hypericum)
    - MUST be mixed in a GLASS or PLASTIC bowl (metal with react with the water and herb)
    - drip 5-10 drops (bantam) or 10-15 drops (large fowl) on the afflicted bird's tongue. Be sure the bird rubs its beak together because the Hypericum MUST touch the sinuses (located on the roof of the mouth) in order to work
    - treat every 12 hours (morning and night) with a fresh batch
    - recovery may be as quick as 1 day or as slow as several months

    The treatment works best if you begin treating early. If you delay treatment, the Hypericum may not work or it may be a very slow recovery. IF YOU OVERDOSE YOUR BIRDS ON HYPERICUM, don't worry. The bird will exhibit extreme symptoms, and make a drastic improvement within a 24 hours. Hypericum is also helpful for pain. Only treat birds that are showing symptoms.
     

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