Massive corn shortage expected in 2022. Tips for long term storage of feed?

[saysfaa]

Does anyone know of grains meant for human consumption might sprout? My winco sells grains in bulk (like those coffee bean tubes you pull the lever) and it seems that those might work well for what I'm looking at

Usually, yes, from that kind of dispenser. You may want to get a small amount and do a germination test. That is just putting them between wet (then kept damp) paper towels in a warm, dark place to see how many sprout.

You might soak them for several hours or a couple of says first. Change tbe water if it is more than a day.

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

Well I know my Organic, no GMO, no corn, no soy feed sprouts… just fed a bunch of sprouts to the birds of that stuff.

Also I bought pop corn from the grocery store, the stuff fir the air poppers.. and it germinated and grew just fine.

I grew big ornamental corn and pop corn from the kernels I took off of ornamental “Indian“ corn cobs I got at the grocery store.

I have purchased organic dried beans at the store and grown those.

Pepper seed from fresh peppers and pepper flakes.

Heirloom Tomatoes, slice them up put in put put soil on top and water… also cherries and various other varieties.

Coriander = Cilantro

I have been very creative over the years, when seed seemed crazy priced or hard to get.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Those that follow my posts know that i put ZERO value on feeding my birds organic - but if you are buying grains for sprouts from the human food aisle, seeing "Organic" on the label guarantees its not treated in about half a dozen ways that would keep it from sprouting.

It does not guarantee sprouting - it only guarantees that some methods which would absolutely prevent sprouting haven't been applied to the packaging or contents.

 

[Lauravonsmurf]

Yeah you have to experiment on which things in the grocery store will sprout… not everything I have planted and got to grow was “organic” labeled. I am just saying the whole feed I tend to buy grows… a lot of bird seed will sprout no problem too.

My opinion on organic vs not organic is it’s up to you, and what you can find. Since I am looking for feed sans a rather common ingredient, it is always ”organic” when I find it. Just the way it is so I have 0 choice on that option, unless I hand mix it, which is a whole other thing.

 

[raingarden]

You know your birds are spoiled rotten when you start buying their feed at the health food store.

 

[SunnyFeathers]

That report is BS. We may have fewer acres planted to corn but in many areas of the corn belt corn is still profitable even with the higher input costs.

The other point that this report fails to consider is that a lot of inputs were bought before the prices ran up to their current high levels.

In my analysis we will not plant more soybean acres than corn. In fact on our farm in Indiana we are planting the most corn we've planted in the past few years.

We won't run out of corn, we might have a tight supply but we won't run out.

Yes, I hear you.

But after you grow your corn, who will the buyer be?

Will it be somebody here in the states - who might turn it into animal feed for our narion’s livestock?

Or will it be the Chinese (or another foreign buyer)?

A big part of the rapidly emerging problem is that - not only do we face shortages of fertilizer and other ag chemicals as we go into the 2022 growing season - but a huge part of the crops we do raise in 2022 will end up being sold to Chinese and other foreign buyers, rather than being made available to US buyers.

As a nation, we are selling off too much of our domestic agricultural commodoties, which is going to exasperbate the shortages that are already emerging, and raise prices on what remains in our market after the foreign sales.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Yes, I hear you.

But after you grow your corn, who will the buyer be?

Will it be somebody here in the states - who might turn it into animal feed for our narion’s livestock?

Or will it be the Chinese (or another foreign buyer)?

A big part of the upcoming problem is that - not only do we face shortages of fertilizer and other ag chemicals - but a huge part of the crops we will be raising have already been promised to Chinese and other foreign buyers.
As a nation, we are selling off too much of our domestic agricultural commodoties, which is going to make it all the more expensive to purchase livestock and people food both.

You are speaking, but what you are saying is completely wrong, as can be trivially determined. This morning's corn futures - they are down, and looking forward to future Futures contracts, they continue to drop - May futures are less than Mar, July less than May, etc.

Yes, the Chinese bought up a lot of the surplus from the last crop to be harvested, yes, we've had serious weather events, yes there are labor issues, vfertilizer issues, transport issues - but you don't have falling futures contracts, and reduced pricing looking forward until the next harvest, when there's the sort of saupply squeeze you discuss above.

and finally, this is NOT STOCK ADVICE. Do not trade based on my opinions.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

As a nation, we are selling off too much of our domestic agricultural commodoties, which is going to exasperbate the shortages that are already emerging, and raise prices on what remains in our market after the foreign sales.

No, that is not correct. We use our corn for both domestic and export purposes. It is not a simple as "my corn goes to China and yours goes to the feedmill." The market will determine where the corn goes.

Much of where the corn goes depends upon where it is grown. If you farm along the the main rivers in the US then there's a good chance your corn will be put on a barge then taken to New Orleans.

We farm in NE Indiana and sell to two different elevators. One uses the corn for their feed mill while the other makes unit trains of corn to send to the chicken industry in the SE USA.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

You are speaking, but what you are saying is completely wrong, as can be trivially determined. This morning's corn futures - they are down, and looking forward to future Futures contracts, they continue to drop - May futures are less than Mar, July less than May, etc.

Yes, the Chinese bought up a lot of the surplus from the last crop to be harvested, yes, we've had serious weather events, yes there are labor issues, vfertilizer issues, transport issues - but you don't have falling futures contracts, and reduced pricing looking forward until the next harvest, when there's the sort of saupply squeeze you discuss above.

and finally, this is NOT STOCK ADVICE. Do not trade based on my opinions.

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The key missing element when looking at commodity prices is the local basis, the difference between the local price and the Futures prices. The basis tells the story about the local supply of crops and the amount of selling farmers are doing. There are areas where the basis is higher than normal due (prices at or above futures prices) because of shortages or farmers waiting for even higher prices.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

The key missing element when looking at commodity prices is the local basis, the difference between the local price and the Futures prices. The basis tells the story about the local supply of crops and the amount of selling farmers are doing. There are areas where the basis is higher than normal due (prices at or above futures prices) because of shortages or farmers waiting for even higher prices.

Yes, but OP was talking about China, so I dismissed local variations in favor of global market reporting.