OK, this is our second round of chicks from McMurray. Had an awesome experience in August with a shipment so I used them again. Yes, I realize its a hatchet hand therefore the birds aren't show/breeder quality. I had 100 chicks shipped to upstate, NY. Of course, it was frigid last weekend and I went to pick them up in Albany on Monday's snowstorm!!! Right out of the gate, 3 were dead in the box. All three Blue Andalusians. We now are down to 87 chicks on day 4 of having them. The brooder is textbook perfect--believe me, I'm a reading fool when it comes to this stuff! Water w/electrolytes, heat lamps on one side to 95 degrees at brooder level, a cool side of the brooder, multiple chick feeders/waterers, checking for pasty butt 2X/day, clean bedding, no drafts, etc. Even with all of this, we're down to 87 chicks!!! All Andalusians except one Easter Egger and one Delaware. Did I get a faulty batch of Andalusians? They were all vaccinated for Marek's & Cocci and no chicks have been brooded in my basement before. No contamination or disease down there for sure. I realize they're a Mediterranean breed and in hind-sight, I wish I hadn't let the McMurray operator talk me in to 20 of this breed. I wanted a white egg layer but have 5 Leghorns and was looking for something different. Ugh. These chicks are TINY and weak! Even the remaining few are scrawny little things! In terms of refunds, McMurray has been fabulous, but having chicks die on me after feeding and watering through droppers is heart-breaking!!!!