medicated versus non medicated turkey feed.

Discussion in 'Turkeys' started by Shelshanam, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Shelshanam

    Shelshanam Out Of The Brooder

    So I'm pricing out starter turkey feed in my area.

    I've got an option for medicated versus non medicated.

    Nature wise is the medicated and my local feed mill makes the non medicated.

    Both are almost identical in protein and all the other ingredients.

    Price wise they are 4 dollars apart for a 50# bag, with the feed mill be the cheaper product.

    Some concerns, I pretty much only medicate my chicks if I see signs of a worm problem. Too date I've had no losses, good weights on my gals, and I've only medicated my first group of hens (day old chicks that were having suspicious colored poop) I purchased in this area from a feed store with sulmet. But this will be my first time raising turkeys so I want to do thing right.

    With Turkey is it more important to make sure you are keeping cocci under control? I live in a temperate area with 4 seasons and average rainfall around 21 inches (although I think this year we are going to beat that).

    I would prefer to stay antibiotic free but with a small flock I don't want to loose birds to something preventable. So thanks in advance for suggestions or recommendations!
  2. Celie

    Celie Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 23, 2012
    Tickfaw, Louisiana
    I do not use any medicated feed, because why would I want to medicate something if it is not sick? I use ACV, which provides probiodics, without medication to keep my turkeys healthy! But that's just my opinion![​IMG]
  3. Oregon Blues

    Oregon Blues Overrun With Chickens

    Apr 14, 2011
    Central Oregon
    Because I feel that turkey poults are fragile, I feed them medicated game bird starter when they are little and I am exceedingly careful to keep them in as perfect an environment as I can mange. They are expensive babies and every loss is a big financial hit.

    The amprolium is vitamin based. It is not an antibiotic. If you don't want to feed it, that's fine, but it is not going to hurt your poults or contaminate the meat.
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  4. Shelshanam

    Shelshanam Out Of The Brooder

    Thank you!

    The reason I asked about the medicated is I am worried more about the Turkey Poults then baby chicks who seem to be pretty hardy. The turkeys are a larger investment and while the feed is more expensive for the medicated I rather put that out while they are young then trying to play catch up if my little flock gets sick and I start losing them.

    About how many weeks do you keep them on the medicated? Is it the full 9 weeks till you change to a lower percentage feed?

    Thanks again!
  5. muslw4

    muslw4 Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 7, 2011
    Northern Illinois
    I've been wondering the same question. I ordered turkeys for the first time, due to arrive in April. Can't wait! Thanks for posting with question.
    I have another question, hope it's not too dumb. I've seen ACV mentioned on other posts, what is it exactly, or what does ACV stand for? and where can one get it? Is this the probiotic that can be added to water for any animal? I've done so much research lately I forget what I've read where!
  6. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

    Jun 24, 2012
    My Coop
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  7. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

    Jun 24, 2012
    My Coop
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  8. muslw4

    muslw4 Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 7, 2011
    Northern Illinois
    Ah big DUH on my part :) I take ACV myself to balence pH now I get it. I think I read this on another thread, can't remember which one, but if the pH is acidic in sheep/goats, they may be more likely to have female offspring? I guess I should try it and see.
  9. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

    Jun 24, 2012
    My Coop
    They say that's true in horses, too.
  10. Oregon Blues

    Oregon Blues Overrun With Chickens

    Apr 14, 2011
    Central Oregon

    I buy game bird starter that is 28% protein and it is medicated. They stay on that until they can easily eat pellets and then they go onto a 20% turkey pellet that is not medicated. I transition them for a couple of weeks, so they have both feeds in their feeder at the same time for awhile. I don't want any of them to slow down in their eating because the pellets are harder to swallow. I haven't kept track of what week I switch, but they are completely feathered and weigh a couple of pounds at the time. I get really good growth with the game bird starter, so a couple of extra weeks is not really a waste of money. Basically, they get switched when the bag of starter runs out.

    I put a spoonful of yogurt into their water and when they switch feeds, I keep up the yogurt plus add a niacin tablet to their water. The game bird starter has adequate niacin, but I am not so convinced about the niacin in the turkey pellet and don't want to risk leg issues with such fast growing birds. They need sunshine for vitamin D so that they can use the calcium and phosphorus to build good bones.

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