Merrecks vaccine in bantams/older chicks

BantamAshley

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I have recently been told by my chick supplier that they do not vaccinate bantams, as it is too dangerous. The employee had recommended vaccinating them myself at 1 week of age, though everything that I am finding on the net indicated that the vaccine absolutely has to be givin within the first 36 hours.
Does anyone with more experience know what is correct? Would I be waisting my money to vaccinate them at 1 week?
 

EggSighted4Life

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Hi, hope you are enjoying BYC! :frow

In my opinion, according to ALL the research I've done.. it will be ineffective if given to older chicks. :confused:

Way too often "employees" give very bad advice. :hmm I say ya gotta trust the research on this one.

I've seen Marek's here. I don't vaccinate. It can't be passed to the egg. Since I hope to breed for resistance, it's a risk I choose to take when chicks go out to pasture. But I know that won't be the right choice for everyone. :pop

Good luck with your new babes! :wee
 

BantamAshley

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Mar 6, 2018
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Hi, hope you are enjoying BYC! :frow

In my opinion, according to ALL the research I've done.. it will be ineffective if given to older chicks. :confused:

Way too often "employees" give very bad advice. :hmm I say ya gotta trust the research on this one.

I've seen Marek's here. I don't vaccinate. It can't be passed to the egg. Since I hope to breed for resistance, it's a risk I choose to take when chicks go out to pasture. But I know that won't be the right choice for everyone. :pop

Good luck with your new babes! :wee
Thank you. Yes it has been hard to get good information. I had initially made the decision NOT to vaccinate, but then my vet scared the crap out of me, basically implying that I am dooming my chicks to sure suffering. :he So I scrambled to make sure that the new chicks arriving would be vaccinated. But I just don’t know what to believe! If you can’t trust your vet, or an experienced employee, where do you turn.
 

BantamAshley

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Mar 6, 2018
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Syracuse, NY
Personally, if offered a chick which had received the Marek's vaccine, I would absolutely refuse to take it into my flock. I feel THAT strongly about the Marek's vaccine, and the risk it poses to an otherwise healthy chick and flock.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous

This was exactly my initial concern, and why I hesitated to vaccinate. My vet recently absolutely insisted, but from a utilitarian perspective, it seems that not vaccinating is still a responsible choice.
 

BantamAshley

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Mar 6, 2018
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Syracuse, NY
Hi, hope you are enjoying BYC! :frow

In my opinion, according to ALL the research I've done.. it will be ineffective if given to older chicks. :confused:

Way too often "employees" give very bad advice. :hmm I say ya gotta trust the research on this one.

I've seen Marek's here. I don't vaccinate. It can't be passed to the egg. Since I hope to breed for resistance, it's a risk I choose to take when chicks go out to pasture. But I know that won't be the right choice for everyone. :pop

Good luck with your new babes! :wee

In breeding for resistance, is the logic that the weaker birds will die off, and the ones that live will build & pass on immunity?
 

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BantamAshley

Songster
Mar 6, 2018
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Syracuse, NY
Hi, hope you are enjoying BYC! :frow

In my opinion, according to ALL the research I've done.. it will be ineffective if given to older chicks. :confused:

Way too often "employees" give very bad advice. :hmm I say ya gotta trust the research on this one.

I've seen Marek's here. I don't vaccinate. It can't be passed to the egg. Since I hope to breed for resistance, it's a risk I choose to take when chicks go out to pasture. But I know that won't be the right choice for everyone. :pop

Good luck with your new babes! :wee

Also, it’s good to know that it can’t be passed to the egg!
 

sylviethecochin

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In breeding for resistance, is the logic that the weaker birds will die off, and the ones that live will build & pass on immunity?
Yep. And also, if you have a really bad strain of Marek's that kills off your entire flock--well, that strain of the virus stops there. Harsh, but far preferable than letting that strain gain momentum, in my opinion.
 

BantamAshley

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Mar 6, 2018
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Syracuse, NY
Yep. And also, if you have a really bad strain of Marek's that kills off your entire flock--well, that strain of the virus stops there. Harsh, but far preferable than letting that strain gain momentum, in my opinion.
I agree. The vaccine should really not even be legal. But of course, that wouldn’t fly with Tyson. -Chickens: 0
large corporations: 1
 

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