Mille Fleur leg color

mapurcel

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Hi all,

I got some chicks from Ideal Hatchery and I noticed that one of them has yellow legs and the rest have blue. Is this a genetics difference within the breed or should I be concerned? The rest of her skin looks the same as the others and she appears healthy.

below I am including photos where you can see this difference.
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EggSighted4Life

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Hi there. :frow

Yes, it's (visible) genetic differences called phenotype.. Note mille fleur is just a feather pattern.. that is carried in lots of breeds.. just guessing you are showing a d'uccle?

The bottom of the feet show true skin color.. looks like the one with blue shank is sporting white skin and the yellow shanked bird is showing yellow skin.

I'm not familiar with the standard of perfection for that breed.. but even parent stock containing all the right traits will sometimes throw a fault.. out of every 100 birds hatched.. only 2 or 3 are TRULY breeding quality. For laying eggs, the skin color will have no baring. :)
 

mapurcel

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Hi there. :frow

Yes, it's (visible) genetic differences called phenotype.. Note mille fleur is just a feather pattern.. that is carried in lots of breeds.. just guessing you are showing a d'uccle?

The bottom of the feet show true skin color.. looks like the one with blue shank is sporting white skin and the yellow shanked bird is showing yellow skin.

I'm not familiar with the standard of perfection for that breed.. but even parent stock containing all the right traits will sometimes throw a fault.. out of every 100 birds hatched.. only 2 or 3 are TRULY breeding quality. For laying eggs, the skin color will have no baring. :)
Thank you for responding. My flock is Belgium D’uccles yes. I’m not showing but I find the variation in phenotype fascinating. I also have another hen who is the same breed and color variety but is a much darker brown. Do you know where I could find the standard of perfection to satisfy my curiosity ?
 

EggSighted4Life

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I also have another hen who is the same breed and color variety but is a much darker brown. Do you know where I could find the standard of perfection to satisfy my curiosity ?
I like the darker mahogany color called jubilee in Orpington and speckled in Sussex.

I dug up a couple links that might have decent information about the SOP.. I didn't see any of them mention skin color..

https://sites.google.com/site/belgianbantamclub/thebarbuduccle

http://www.belgianduccle.org/belgian-duccles.html

https://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGK/Millies/BRKMilleFleur.html

The american bantam association standard of perfection looks like you might have to buy a copy or become a member to see the SOP...
https://www.bantamclub.com/

Some of the breeder clubs might include it as general public information when you visit their site.. that how I got Marans, Ameraucana, etc.
 

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I like the darker mahogany color called jubilee in Orpington and speckled in Sussex.

I dug up a couple links that might have decent information about the SOP.. I didn't see any of them mention skin color..

https://sites.google.com/site/belgianbantamclub/thebarbuduccle

http://www.belgianduccle.org/belgian-duccles.html

https://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGK/Millies/BRKMilleFleur.html

The american bantam association standard of perfection looks like you might have to buy a copy or become a member to see the SOP...
https://www.bantamclub.com/

Some of the breeder clubs might include it as general public information when you visit their site.. that how I got Marans, Ameraucana, etc.
I couldn't find any mention of skin color either.
 

Amer

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Yellow skin is a recessive trait that pops up in d’Uccles occasionally (with the slate it expresses as willow, though). It is a disqualification for the breed but harmless. It’s just the color of the skin like having a yellow-legged Rhode Island Red, or Wyandotte.
 

mapurcel

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Yellow skin is a recessive trait that pops up in d’Uccles occasionally (with the slate it expresses as willow, though). It is a disqualification for the breed but harmless. It’s just the color of the skin like having a yellow-legged Rhode Island Red, or Wyandotte.
Are slate and willow different color variations of legs? I'm new to the genetics game :)
 

Amer

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Are slate and willow different color variations of legs? I'm new to the genetics game :)
Slate legs are what is typical for d’Uccles, slate legs with no yellow pigment. Willow legs are what happens when the recessive yellow gene is added, slate legs with yellow pigment.
 

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