Mites or Cocci

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by ambe0487, May 28, 2017.

  1. ambe0487

    ambe0487 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 6, 2015
    Urbandale, IA
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    1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.)

    Buff Orpington 1 year 3 month old Hen

    2) What is the behavior, exactly.

    Lethargic, comb ends and back turns light purple or very pale but changes constantly. Closing eyes while standing. Pulsing dirty vent. Wasn't going for treats or food when given. Not even eggs. Laid lighter colored egg yesterday.

    3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?

    I noticed lethargic earlier today when I went to give lunch.

    4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?

    None that I have noticed, all in high spirits.

    5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.


    6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.

    When I found her in the run, I decided to give her a bath and soak her in case she was egg bound. Once soaked I noticed small lice eggs on 4 or so feathers by her vent. I gave her a a round of Ivomec as well as the rest of my flock.

    7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.

    She has free choice of layer pellets, water, oyster shell, granite grit. Not sure if she ate any but we roasted a hog yesterday and they have the bones to pick the rest off.

    8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.

    Very infrequent. Went 5 hours without pooping #1 is first in series #2 & #3 are with in this last hour. All very runny, stinky, they look very abnormal.

    9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far? Finally got her to eat scrambled eggs after 2 hours of syringe dripping poly vi sol (no iron) and water mix. She is not eating and drinking on her own. Much more lively but not back to normal yet.

    10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?

    I would like to treat as much myself unless treatment is failing 100%

    11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

    12) Describe the housing/bedding in use

    Deep litter method with sand base.
  2. ambe0487

    ambe0487 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 6, 2015
    Urbandale, IA
    A5DA14F8-9BE1-4F58-B491-A331E20CE9C4.jpg I forgot to post her vent with the lice eggs.
  3. Nksg75

    Nksg75 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Aug 18, 2014
    I saw no one had responded, and wanted to ask if she had lost weight that you can tell?
    How is she today?
    I was scouring the site looking for info on worming my girls, and came across this.
    Could it be worms in addition to mites?
    I hope someone who is more knowledgeable helps out.
    I understand the frustration of not knowing, and sometimes not getting a response to a post.
  4. Wyorp Rock

    Wyorp Rock Flock Master

    Sep 20, 2015
    Southern N.C. Mountains
    How does her abdomen feel - any bloat, swelling, feeling like it has fluid in it?
    The poop - I agree does not look normal. @casportpony any ideas?

    If you have vet care, that would be best. For some reason I'm leaning toward infection but an internal laying/reproductive disorder (Peritonitis, Ascites, cancer, tumors) may be at play as well.

    Do your best to keep her hydrated. Offer her some poultry vitamins. Nutrition (eating is important), but keep the fluids going is first priority.

    For the lice, the Ivomec should take care of those.
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  5. coach723

    coach723 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 12, 2015
    North Florida
    I'd also see if you can get a fecal float test done. That would tell you if you are dealing with internal parasites which can cause runny droppings and sometimes lead to secondary infection.
  6. ambe0487

    ambe0487 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 6, 2015
    Urbandale, IA
    Thank you for your response, I do greatly appreciate your help! It doesns't seem like she has really lost weight. She is a big girl so she may have but not enough to feel through the fluff.

    It could be a number of things other than mites/lice. That is what I was trying to figure out. I think I will try to find a Vet to do a fecal Float test in my area.
  7. ambe0487

    ambe0487 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 6, 2015
    Urbandale, IA

    Great Information Glenda. I took some from all three of your recomendations and got her eating some mashed eggs with Oregano right away this morning. I have also started to mix the wet mash and Poly vi Sol (no iron) into a bowl once she is done with the eggs.
    In her water, I put a dose of Corrid just in case it was that going on.
    Thank you so very much for the vast amount of information!
  8. ambe0487

    ambe0487 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 6, 2015
    Urbandale, IA
    I asked on my Facebook local page for recommendations for a vet to do a float test. Thank you for your help!
  9. ambe0487

    ambe0487 Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 6, 2015
    Urbandale, IA
    I've put a post out on one of my local Facebook pages for recommendations for a local vet. Just waiting for some responses and when they open tomorrow I'll make some calls.

    Do you think she could be laying internally even when I've been getting eggs from her still? Her abdomen feels full and I'd anticipated her laying an egg yesterday by the feel of it but I'm thinking with her being so sick it wasn't ready.

    So far this morning I've still been syringe dripping her some Poly Vi Sol (no iron) and poultry drench with water. Also as a precaution I did add some Corrid to her drinking water in case that was in play also.
  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

    Jun 24, 2012
    My Coop
    I'm just guessing here, but her poop looks like she might have a bacterial infection of some type. Getting her to a vet would be best if you can afford it. Poop should be checked for bacteria, coccidiosis, and worms. It's quite possible that she has more than one of them.

    Edited to add:
    If she does have an E. coli infection she needs antibiotics ASAP.
    Last edited: May 29, 2017
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