Modern Game Genetics?

Discussion in 'Exhibition, Genetics, & Breeding to the Standard o' started by CascadiaRiver, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. CascadiaRiver

    CascadiaRiver Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am doing some genetical digging and got curious, are their genetics similar to that of OEGB? I know thier genes fairly well but they are different breeds entirely. I am learning genetics entirely for fun, I dont have any MGB but I really hope to in the future XD
     
  2. Kev

    Kev Overrun With Chickens

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    chicken color genetics and patterns are the same for all breeds.
     
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  3. CascadiaRiver

    CascadiaRiver Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well, I know that to be incorrect. I myself am not a breeder but I know that the genes carry differently in breed to breed, especially since they dont all have the same colours. There are some overlaying genetic similarities like the "Black, Blue Splash" Gene clump, but if all genetics were same for all breeds then it would be much easier to acquire certain colours and patterns in other breeds, hell who knows what colours we'd have today! XD
     
  4. Kev

    Kev Overrun With Chickens

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    I repeat.....

    There is no genetic barrier to transferring colors between breeds.

    The limitations are artificial and man made. Breeds are man made.

    There is no genetic barrier to creating silver lace moderns.

    There is no genetic barrier to creating silver wheaten dun moderns.
     
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  5. Wappoke

    Wappoke Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have to agree with Kev. Just because a breed does not have a variety found in its standard does not mean that the breed can not be bred to produce a totally new variety. Every gene ( excluding lethals) can be passed from one parent to its offspring to produce some phenotype in the F1 generation or in a future generation. With the correct breeding regimen, any gene or gene pair can segregate to produce a phenotype in a subsequent generation.
     
  6. CascadiaRiver

    CascadiaRiver Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If they all eventually can be "cooked in the same pot" why is there no sites explaining the ALL of chicken genetics instead of "D'uccle Genes" and "Orpington Genetics" Why not just smush it all together and make it easier on everyone?

    And I suppose to Answer My Own Question, OEGB genetic breeding would be similar to that of Modern Games.
     
  7. Wappoke

    Wappoke Chillin' With My Peeps

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    If an individual is wanting to produce a white variety of any breed, the gene responsible for the white color will most likely be the recessive white gene. Most white varieties are white because of the recessive white gene. There are other genetic avenues to producing a white chicken but recessive white is the most common gene used to make a white chicken. Another option for a white chicken is dominant white but dominant white needs help from other genes to make a white chicken. Dominant white needs help from other genes like extended black, melanotic and sex-linked silver. To make breeding for white as simple as possible breeders use the recessive white gene.

    Most likely the modern game and oegb both are white because of the recessive white gene. So the genetics for white in both breeds is the same; in order to obtain a white variety, they both use the recessive white gene to eliminate non-white in the plumage.
     
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  8. keesmom

    keesmom Overrun With Chickens

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    Because the genetics of chicken colors and patterns is a complex subject. If you are really interested in what genes produce which colors/patterns you may want to look into getting the book Genetics of Chicken Colours. It is easy to understand and shows all the varieties one can have in chickens. If you look on Amazon there are other books out there as well - 21st Centrury Poultry Breeding, Genetics of the Fowl and so on. I prefer the one by Sigrid Van Dort though.

    http://www.chickencolours.com/pagina3.html


    OEGB genetics are the same as Modern Games. As they are in every other breed. Every color or pattern possible in chickens can be produced in any breed. It just may take many years to get there.
     
  9. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    There are plenty of poultry genetics websites and books that are not breed dependent. On the ones that are breed specific, you will not always find people who really know their genetics; there are exceptions, but those who become passionate about genetics tend to enjoy talking all breeds, not just one, and they will be the first to tell you that all chickens are a single species, therefore the genes work the same in all of them, regardless of breed.

    google "Genetics of Chicken Colors and Basics"

    "Poultry Genetics for Exhibition Breeders"

    "Chicken Calculator"
     
  10. draye

    draye Overrun With Chickens

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    Since there seems to be many more color varieties on the Game chickens I thought I'd ask here.

    I know this is a far cry from Game but I would live to know if there is an actual color name for this color.

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    I'm not a great photographer but if you need more pics I'll try to get some more.
     

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