Month old chicks dying during Cocci treatment

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by ThIsafricanhome, Sep 17, 2016.

  1. ThIsafricanhome

    ThIsafricanhome Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have a batch of month old chicks that I incubated myself that have been dying over the last few days, one or two at a time. I was in the middle of a Cocci teatment when they started dying. They seemed to be not thriving or gaining weight despite eating, drinking, and acting mostly normal. I also saw a few watery stools but over all the poop has been normal. They are in a large brooder with a wire bottom, a nipple waterer and get fresh food two to three times a day. I have to mix my own feed to use with them. Here is the recipe Ive come up with - 4 cups beans (roasted), 1 cup yeast, 20 cups corn, 1 cup lentils, 2 cups sorghum, 1/4 cup moringa powder, 2 cups oats, 3 cups raw peanuts, 4 cups wheat, 6 cups soybeans (roasted), 5 cups split peas, and 2 cups white rice. This comes to an 18% protein mix with the moringa adding a lot of vitamins and minerals. All of this is ground together minus the yeast which I sprinkle on before I feed. When I feed I take the mixed feed, sprinkle on some yeast and add in some oil with oregano EO in it. All of that gets mixed with water mixed up with a vitamin and electolyte powder. This is also what they have for drinking water in the nipple bottle, other than when Ive been treating them for cocci with corid powder. They are outside almost everyday, other than when its raining or the last week with the treatment, with access to both the vitamin water and fresh water and their food. They have had sand/grit each day while in the brooder and obviously had it outside. I use sand in my runs for drainage since we live in a tropical place with a lot of rain and as I mentioned earlier the brooder has a wire bottom with no litter. They had dirt/ground exposure early on and have had a chance to ingest small amounts of poop for Cocci and I was in the middle of the week-long treatment when they started dying. The first one I brought in and attempted to treat with antibiotics, poly-vi-sol and broth for nutrition but it ended up dying anyhow. It seemed to develop something respitory because it gurgled and crackled when it was breathing but the other one I found before it passed did not. Most of the others have been dead upon checking on them in the morning for their first feed. I put them outside again today for the first time in a week since starting the cocci treatment and all seemed to be acting normal minus one who seemed more lethargic and droopy but was still eating, drinking and scratching around. I have struggled a lot with disease with our chickens here but this is a completly fresh start. No other birds around, sanitized coop and run and even the eggs were disinfected with virkon before going into the incubator. The chicks were around our newly hatched ducks (two months) for some hours during the day time but are now in their own pen. I am COMPLETELY baffled and discouraged with this problem as I have started over several times from problems with disease (bringing in older birds who were carriers) and this time started from disinfected eggs. Any ideas?
     
  2. junebuggena

    junebuggena Chicken Obsessed

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    If they have never been exposed to soil before, it is very unlikely that they have coccidia. I suspect that your issues are caused by the homemade feed possibly being nutrient deficient. Chickens require a specific amount of amino acids that aren't found in plants, and a precise balance of trace vitamins and minerals. Get them on a properly formulated chick starter ASAP. Also, wire is not really great for their feet.
     
  3. ThIsafricanhome

    ThIsafricanhome Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I HAVE to mix my own feed - there is no premixed anything here. We live in a remote village in Congo, Africa. I understand it could be a nutrition thing which is why I included the recipe so people could make suggestions, other than just buying pre mixed stuff which doesnt exist here. Believe me - if I could get it here I would be using it! We went with wire because its the best option for us and they are not on it all the time because they go outside almost daily, so they have had exposure to the ground.
     
  4. Acornewell

    Acornewell Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Corid does not treat all types of coccidia. Were they on a preventative dose or were you treating them as if they had coccidia? It is possible that you are dealing with a strand of coccidia that is or has become resistant to Corid. I would switch to sulfadimethoxine.

    Have you had their poop tested for coccidia?
     
  5. ThIsafricanhome

    ThIsafricanhome Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I guess Im not sure if its resistant or not. No one here medicates their animals so I highly doubt an over- exposure but maybe its resistant? No idea. I was doing a full strength treatment. Corid is the only official med I have here for it. What is a preventative dosage?
     

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