Multiple tumors- prognosis

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Talithahorse, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. Talithahorse

    Talithahorse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have a young silkie that I found with a bleeding area near her leg. In the process of treating it, it appears kind of like a spur that has been knocked off leaving a weeping round area in which I stopped the bleeding and isolated her. Today when checking that wound (which is hard to get a picture due to the flour used to stop the bleeding), I also noticed another soft tumor on her wing. My question is with likely two tumors, and possibly more, will she continue to get tumors. The only vet that does chickens is outrageously priced. I don't want her to suffer and will do what is necessary. The tumor on the wing is feels like a soft fatty tumor which my very old dog has but seems to be growing fairly quickly as I had not noticed it before.
     
  2. chickens really

    chickens really Overrun With Chickens

    Are you even sure it is a Tumour and not a possible abscess??


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  3. Talithahorse

    Talithahorse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Can't say for sure about the one on the leg as it may have been an abcess but the one on wing looks like a tumor to me... I will keep an eye on it. I will try to get pictures later to get a better opinion. Thanks for asking.
     
  4. Talithahorse

    Talithahorse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So here are the pictures of the two growths[​IMG][/IMG]
     
  5. Talithahorse

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  6. Wyorp Rock

    Wyorp Rock Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Where on the leg is this located?
     
  7. Talithahorse

    Talithahorse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Just above the elbow.
     
  8. Wyorp Rock

    Wyorp Rock Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    Have you had any respiratory illness in your flock?

    The lesion on the leg is concerning. It's possible it could be from injury, but since there is also a tumor/abcess under the wing, I suspect they are related. Two diseases that I know of off hand that would cause a skin lesion on the leg like that are Mycoplasma synoviae or Marek's.

    If you haven't done so, separate her and add poultry vitamins to her water. Look for one that has Vitamin E, B2 and Selinium. These won't cure, but can possibly give her a boost. Either illness is contagious, so practicing bio-security is paramount.

    I suggest, if you can to take a swab and send it to your state lab or an independent lab like Zoologix for testing. They should be able to make a confirmation if it is Mycoplasma. (I believe for Marek's a necropsy has to be performed).

    While neither one is curable, Mycoplasma can somewhat be treated with Denagard. It's possible she may make a recovery, but the leg lesion looks like it may be infected at this point. Mycoplasma will make her a carrier for life and any chickens exposed to her would be considered carriers as well.

    Depending on what your chicken keeping goals are (selling/giving away hatching eggs, chicks, started pullets, etc.) it may be best to cull her. If you feel like you want to keep/treat her, then you need to find out for sure what you are dealing with and keep a closed flock if the results come back positive for a disease.

    I pulled some info that I have, but please do some research and reading. If at all possible I would have her tested.

    Just my thoughts.

    http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/p...synovitis.html?qt=Mycoplasma synoviae &alt=sh

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/868525/sores-on-knees-of-3months-old-cockeral

    This one turned out to be Mycoplasma: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1075541/can-bumblefoot-start-at-the-hock
    Same person - just documented journey a bit more here, ended up later on having other flock members become ill with MS/MG https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/1077113/seven-week-old-chick-with-a-new-crooked-leg

    Marek's
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/the-great-big-giant-mareks-disease-faq
    Skin lesions of Marek's
    http://www.poultrydisease.ir/Atlases/avian-atlas/search/lesion/634.html
     
  9. chickens really

    chickens really Overrun With Chickens

    To keep your other Birds some what safe as they have been exposed, the best thing to do is Cull and keep an eye on the remaining flock.....




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  10. Talithahorse

    Talithahorse Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks for the info. I run a closed flock except for this year (May) when I added some 4h chicks who we were told were vaccinated. We practiced full biosecurity between the chicks and our other flocks until after the fair ( which we missed due to a family emergency. She runs in a separate flock in which I have only added one blind rooster from my laying flock.
    Her pen is fully enclosed so not even a sparrow can enter. I have had her since she hatched from my silkie hen who I have had for 2 years. How could either of those two diseases enter into our closed flock?

    I will probably end up culling her but want to make sure I take precautions to protect my flock. This is exactly why I have been working towards a self sufficient flock.
     

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