So I have a flock of 5 American Buff geese... ok I HAD 5 now I have 4. One goose seemed to have a broken wing - this happened about the same time I lost a few chickens to arial predators so i just assumed it was an injury and taped the wing. Then the other wing started to droop so I figured maybe it was an old/played out goose. But when I culled it and butchered it there was literally no meat on it. I mean to the point that I was surprised that it was even still able to walk around. My other birds don't seem to have the squinty eye that one did and seem to be getting around fine but now I'm paranoid and thinking that maybe they're underweight, too. I called a couple of vets (I thought it might be worms but worming via the waterer doesn't work for me here - they're loose and too many water sources and too many different sizes of birds to get the dose right anyway giving wormer that way, so I called looking for options on oral pastes or topical options) and one said that they had never heard of worms in birds and that you never really needed to worm them - which seemed really, um, let's go with that he did say that he didn't know that much about birds though they were a livestock vet. Another vet (mine for my pets - she sees geese though) said that she didn't really know of anything that would cause muscle wasting in geese like I saw. While it was alive the goose ate, tried to groom and really was STARVING. When I culled it, the crop was empty, when I hung it upside down some yellow/green water came out its mouth (and that's all that was in the crop, though the intestines were full of green matter/grass?). Aside from worms I can't think of anything that would cause a goose that was ravenous and eating (forage as well as flock raiser tossed out twice a day) to 1) have an empty crop and 2) have absolutely no muscle on it - I mean really I couldn't even make stock from the carcass that's how bad that poor thing was. I feel awful. I thought it was a bum wing, it was that it had no shoulder muscles to hold them up anymore. I suck. I think I've given a bit scattershot information but hopefully it's enough to have someone tell me if the rest of my various birds might be in danger or if it was just a sickly, old goose. If you need more info, please tell me what you need. I wasn't sure whether to post this in the chicken diseases thread or in the goose thread. I opted for here since... it's a goose. Though there are other birds that could be subject to whatever happened here. Thanks!