This is a temporary pen. It will be put up whenever we do meaties which is about 2-3 times a year. It measures 17' by 35'. The dog kennel is their "coop" and it measures 7.5' by 7.5'. I have 36 meaties in there right now that are 4.5 weeks old. They've been outside since they were 2 weeks old. Love watching them run around playing, scratching and just being chickens. We also have 3 - 3 foot feeding troughs and two waterers that hold 8 gallons of water between them.