My Tom has frostbite, please help!

Discussion in 'Turkeys' started by LoveThatChick, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. LoveThatChick

    LoveThatChick Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 9, 2014
    Cedar Hill, TN
    A few days ago, my tom flew up in a tree to roost for the night, instead of the coop, and of course, I couldn't get him down, so he slept up there. It got pretty frosty that night, but in the morning he went back to the rest of the flock, and that night he stayed in the coop, so I didn't think anything of it.

    Well, yesterday, he was acting a little under the weather, and I saw that his caruncles were off color, with some even being black on the ends. I caught him and knew that it was frostbite, so I put coconut oil all over his caruncles and neck to help heal and protect them from further damage. I think that helped, because the coloration has not spread or gotten worse, and his appetite has not diminished.

    But he is still acting a bit slow, and he shakes his snood around a lot, so is there anything else I can do for him? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks,
    -LTC
     
  2. retlaw

    retlaw Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What temperatures are you getting their?
    I have turkeys in -25C which is -13F and never had a case of frost bite.
     
  3. LoveThatChick

    LoveThatChick Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 9, 2014
    Cedar Hill, TN
    I'm getting highs in the low 40F and lows of 28F. But the night he was out, it was much colder and very, very frosty, with the windchill making it colder. I've never had any problems with frostbite either, and I've had turkeys for a few years, chickens for longer.
     
  4. ivan3

    ivan3 spurredon Premium Member

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    If you could post a clear shot of the tom's head, it might be useful.
     
  5. LoveThatChick

    LoveThatChick Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 9, 2014
    Cedar Hill, TN
    I hope this one is okay, he kept walking off.

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  6. ivan3

    ivan3 spurredon Premium Member

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    Thanks for posting the pic. Other than applying a disinfectant (betadine/blukote/Durvet's Scarlet Oil wound spray) if & when the dead tissue starts sloughing off (worst areas some antibiotic ointment) and keeping the guy from being "flash frozen" again - not much else to be done. If the others pick at the areas affected - separate him.

    Wonder if he didn't roost on a branch that wasn't sufficient to his wt. (lots of wind - have to leave out head & neck, when roosting, to use as a counterbalance?). Most of us have never seen this owing to turks keeping heads & necks completely buried under a wing when the temp drops & precipitation increases.
     
  7. retlaw

    retlaw Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am having a hard time believing that a turkey can get frost bite in those warm temperatures. But I am not saying it is not frost bite. It looks like it.

    If it is there must have been an unusual weather happening like the turkey got rained on and then the temperature dropped real fast for the first time this year and combined with the wind chill made for a nasty night.

    If it is frost bite those black sections should fall off.
    Please let us know if they do.
     
  8. LoveThatChick

    LoveThatChick Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 9, 2014
    Cedar Hill, TN
    ivan3: I think you might be right about the counterbalance, and as I said, it was windy. I went ahead and separated him a couple days ago, not because anyone was pecking at him, but because he seemed stressed, and he seems much more comfortable now. I have also been cleaning him and putting Coconut oil with a few things in it to help heal the skin, and he's looking a lot better, but the scabs aren't falling off yet.

    retlaw: I agree, I thought it was very odd, but it was raining most of the day before. If you think it could be something else, please let me know, this is the first time I've ever had any problem with frostbite, so I'm no expert.

    Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it! :)
     
  9. ivan3

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    Only contributors I can think of are a lack of acclimation prior to exposure (always roosted indoors?) and not being familiar with how to manage on a roost that was moving constantly. Glad he's doing better. :)
     
  10. LoveThatChick

    LoveThatChick Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jul 9, 2014
    Cedar Hill, TN

    He is the type of lazy guy who hangs out in the coop as much as he can, so I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't acclimated, and he has a bent toe, so he has slightly more trouble than the others when roosting.
     

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