I went to the Kentucky State Fair today (mostly to take a look at the birds being shown), and they had an entire section of sale/swap. I guess many BYC folks have been to swaps, but (other than last years Indiana Chickenstock) this was my first. It blew me away, and not in a good way. I've never seen so many ill kept and poorly looking chickens! Yes, there were some healthy looking birds there, some that had clean bedding (we got there around 9:30 am) and space. But my Gosh!! There were SO many pens that had birds just crammed in there, barely room to turn around, birds that had wounds on them (from pecking maybe?), birds with horrible bare spots and/or filthy feathers. DH looked more disturbed than I felt - and we left that area before looking at all the birds. I know to some people they're "just chickens," but they're still living creatures!! Even from simply a sales position - it seems to me you'd want your "product" to look appealing I hope most swaps aren't like THAT... How depressing!