**Need Help Understanding the Standard!!

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Wolf-Kim, Aug 9, 2008.

  1. Wolf-Kim

    Wolf-Kim Chillin' With My Peeps

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    My mottled Java pair are throwing chicks with yellow mottled legs AND chicks with chicks with a grayish white mottled legs(the name of the color eludes me at the moment). This is the only part of the standard I have, and I cannot find out which color legs to select FOR and which to cull AGAINST. Yellow or gray?

    Thanks!
    -Kim

    From the American Standard of perfection 1998 edition. Published by the American Poultry Association.






    JAVAS

    One of our older breeds of poultry, the foundation came to the US from the Far East.
    It did however undergo considerable modification here despite the fact it gets its
    Name from the island of Java.Both varieties, the Black and the Mottled, were admitted
    To the standard in 1883 at a time when it enjoyed considerable popularity.
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    Economic Qualities

    General purpose fowl for the production of meat and eggs. Color of skin, yellow; color of
    egg shells,brown.
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    Disqualifications

    See general Disqualifications and cutting for defects.
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    Standard weights

    Cock........9 1/2 lbs
    Hen.........7 1/2 lbs
    Cockeral....8 lbs
    Pullet......6 1/2 lbs
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    Shape Male

    Comb: Single, moderately small, straight and upright;
    Firm on head; lower in front; evenly serrated, having
    Five well-defined points; fine in texture.

    Beak: Stout, well-curved.

    Face: Surface smooth, skin fin and soft in texture.

    Eyes: Large,full,prominent.

    Ear lobes; small, oblong.

    Head: Medium length and breadth (see description of head
    pgs. 28-29)

    Neck: Medium length, arched.
    Hackle--abundant.

    Back: Broad its entire length, long, with a slight decline
    To concave sweep near tail.
    Saddle--abundant

    Tail: Rather long, moderatly full and expanded, carried
    At an angle of fifty-five degrees (55) above
    Horizontal. (figs. 10-11)
    Main tail--long, broad and overlapping.
    Sickles--long and gracefully curved.

    Wings: Rather large, well-folded and carried without
    Drooping.
    Primaries and secondary’s--Broad and overlapping
    In natural order when wing is folded.

    Breast: Broad, full, deep.

    Body and Fluff: Body--long,broad,deep.
    Fluff--Moderately full.

    Legs and toes: Legs set well apart, straght when
    Veiwed from front.
    Lower Thighs--Medium length, large well covered
    With close-fitting feathers.
    Shanks--Medium lengh, stout in bone.
    Toes--Four on each foot, of medium length straight
    And well-spread.
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    Shape Female

    Comb: Single, moderatly small, straight and upright,
    Lower in front; evenly serrated, having five well-
    Defined points; fine in texture.

    Beak: Strong, well-curved.

    Face: Surface smooth, skin soft and fin in texture.

    Eyes: Medium size, full, prominent.

    Wattles: Medium size, well rounded, smooth, fine in
    Texture.

    Ear-lobes: Small.

    Head: Medium size.

    Neck: Medium length slightly arched.

    Back: Broad its entire length, long, full near tail coverts.

    Tail: Rather long, full, slightly expanded, carried at an
    Angle of forty-five degrees (450) above horizontal,
    (Figures 10-11).
    Main tail--Broad and overlapping.

    Wings: Rather large, well-folded and carried without
    Drooping.
    Primaries and secondary’s--Broad and overlapping
    In natural order when wing is folded.

    Breast: Broad, full, deep.

    Body and fluff: Body--long, broad, deep.
    Fluff--Smooth, moderatly full.

    Legs and toes: Legs set well apart, straight when
    Viewed from front.
    Lower thighs--Medium length, large, well covered
    With close-fitting feathers.
    Shanks--Medium length, stout in bone.
    Toes--Four on each foot, of medium length, straight,
    Well-spread.
    Note--see interpretation of standard -- "quality of
    Feather," page 29.
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    Black Javas

    Disqualifications

    More than one half inch of positive white in any part
    Of plumage; two or more feathers tipped or edged with
    Positive white; skin or bottoms of feet showing complete
    Absence of yellow. (See general disqualifications and
    Cutting for defects.)
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    Color--Male and Female

    Comb, Face, Wattles and ear-lobes: Bright
    Red.

    Beak: Black.

    Eyes: Dark brown.

    Shanks and toes: Shanks--Black or nearly black,
    With a tendency toward willow, black preferred.
    Toes--Same as shanks, exept under parts, which
    Must be yellow; Bottoms of feet, yellow.

    Plumage: See description of black plumage color,
    Page 34.

    (Description of common plumage color and patterns from page 34)
    Black Male and Female
    Plumage: Surface -- Lustrous greenish black
    Unercolor--(except where otherwise specified) Dull
    Black in dark-legged varieties; Slate in yellow legged
    Varieties.
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    Mottled Javas

    Disqualifications

    Red or yellow in any part of the plumage; skin or bottoms
    Of feet showing complete absence of yellow. (See
    General disqualifications and cutting defects,)
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    Color--Male and Female

    Comb, Face, Wattles and ear-lobes: Bright red.

    Beak: Horn, shading to yellow at tip.

    Eyes: Reddish bay.

    Plumage: See description of mottled plumage color,
    Page 37.

    Undercolor of all sections: Slate.

    (Description of common plumage color and patterns from page 37)
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    Mottled

    Male

    Note--In all sections,the white tip is to be v-shaped.
    (see figure 53)
    Note--Description is worded for varieties that are
    mottled white on black base color. For
    mottled varieties of other base colors,
    substitute that color for black in each section.

    Head: Lustrous greenish black about on feather in
    three tipped with white.

    Neck: Hackle-- Lustrous,greenish black,about one
    Feather in two ending with a small, sharply defined
    White tip.
    Front of neck--Same as breast.

    Back: Lustrous, greenish black about one feather
    In five tipped with white.
    Saddle--Lustrous, greenish black, about one feather
    In two ending with small sharply defined white tip.

    Tail: Main tail--Lustrous, greenish black ending with
    White tips.
    Main and lesser sickles coverts-- Lustrous, greenish black,
    Ending in white tips.

    Wings: Fronts and bows--Lustrous, greenish black, about
    One feather in three ending with a white tip.
    Coverts--Lustrous, greenish black ending with a
    Small sharply defined white tip.
    Pimaries and secondary’s--Black ending with a
    White tip.

    Breast: Lustrous greenish black about on feather in
    Two tipped with white.

    Body and Fluff: Body--Lustrous greenish black,
    About one feather in two tipped with white.
    Fluff--Black slightly tinged with white.

    Legs: Lower Thighs--Black, slightly tipped with white.

    Undercolor of all sections: Dark slate.
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    Female

    Head: Black about one feather in three tipped with
    White.

    Neck: Hackle--Lustrous, greenish black, about one
    Feather in two tipped with white.
    Front of neck--Same as breast.

    Back: Lustrous, greenish black about one feather in
    Two ending with a white tip.

    Tail: Main tail--Lustrous greenish black, feathers
    Ending with white tips.
    Coverts--Lustrous, greenish black about one feather
    In three ending with a white tip.

    Wings: Fronts and bows--Lustrous, greenish black,
    About one feather in two ending with a small,
    Sharply defined white tip.
    Coverts--Lustrous greenish black, about one feather
    In two ending with a white tip.
    Primaries and secondaries--Black ending with
    White tips.

    Breast: Lustrous, greenish black, about one feather
    In two ending with a small, sharply defined white tip.
    Fluff--Black slightly tinged with white.

    Legs: Lower thighs--Black slightly tipped with white.

    Unercolor of all sections: Dark slate.



    From the American Standard of perfection 1998 edition. Published by the American Poultry Association.​
     
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  2. Wolf-Kim

    Wolf-Kim Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Rereading it, I think they are suppose to be yellow because of this little tidbit..

    Mottled Javas

    Disqualifications


    Red or yellow in any part of the plumage; skin or bottoms
    Of feet showing complete absence of yellow. (See
    General disqualifications and cutting defects,)

    What do you think?

    -Kim​
     
  3. wclawrence

    wclawrence Chillin' With My Peeps

    No. Yellow skin is bad. It says no yellow in bottom of feet. that means no yellow anywhere.
     
  4. Wolf-Kim

    Wolf-Kim Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:Oh, I am so confused. LOL

    I'm not trying to be argumentative I promise!

    Under disqualifications it states "skin or bottoms
    Of feet showing complete absence of yellow." So is the "absence of yellow" what disqualifies or the presence of yellow?

    I know you said yellow was bad, I am just double-checking!

    It's an important, yet silly, question, but I need to know what to cull against. LOL

    Thanks again Wclawrence!
    -Kim
     
  5. wclawrence

    wclawrence Chillin' With My Peeps

    I read that wrong the first time.
    Apparently there are two DQs listed here.

    Yellow in any feather being one of them.

    The absence of yellow on the bottom of their feet being the other.
     
  6. Wolf-Kim

    Wolf-Kim Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Brooster, you PMed me about the standard. Your inbox is full, so I couldn't reply.

    -Kim
     
  7. Wolf-Kim

    Wolf-Kim Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:LOL. Third times the charm.

    So they are suppose to have yellow feet(and not the grayish color which seems to pop up more), correct? [​IMG]

    I really appreciate it!

    -Kim
     
  8. Rabid Vulture

    Rabid Vulture Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Mottled javas are supposed to have corn yellow legs with black barring across the front.

    I used to have a beautiful mottled rooster, but he passed away due to pneumonia. They due wonderful at shows if they're good quality. I was planning on getting mine a hen. [​IMG] They take forever to get to full maturity though!

    Hope this helps.
     
  9. nnbreeder

    nnbreeder Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Under color for the Mottled Java the Standard reads...Shanks and toes: Broken leaden-blue and yellow.
     
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