New duck!

Discussion in 'Ducks' started by Nyxsie, Dec 17, 2016.

  1. Nyxsie

    Nyxsie Out Of The Brooder

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    I got her from a farm feed&supply store. They have donkeys, various pigs, goats, emus, quails, and various chicken and duck breeds. The man working there who talked with me when I decided to purchase her was nice enough, but he did something that really angered me and I feel like a fool for not saying anything. I'm kind of wondering if I should say something next time I go there. The second I showed interest in the Muscovies, he said they are disgusting and the nastiest creatures ever. I asked if they were for sale and he said he believes the owner is selling the whole flock only, but isn't sure. (2 males and 4 females) So I went and talked with the owner, an older lady, and she said she could sell me a single female so I decided to purchase anyways. She told me to pick one out as the man went to get a cardboard box for transport. He didn't come back until after she had gone back inside.

    I told him which one I picked out, and he went in to get her. He held her in place, and then to my surprise he grabbed her legs and flipped her upside down and carried her over like that. As he was opening the gate that separates the employee area from visitor, I touched her head. I said "Wow, she is dirty". Because, well, she was. Probably due to the fact they don't have a pool and don't have enough water to even clean their faces. She felt sticky and muddy. He said "Well quite frankly it's because she's covered in "s". I told you they are just nasty" or something like that. So, as he walked out, I asked him "why is that" as he never gave me a reason for why they are so gross. I really wish I didn't ask, because not only did he have nothing to back that statement up (basically just said they are an invasive species that the state doesn't care if you hunt, and that people slipped in their "s" when he was younger), but he just stood there, holding her upside down, as he talked bad about her species. I didn't know what to say, or if it was even bad for her. And if I did say something, would he just say "Oh it's fine" and shake her or something? Anyways, after about 2 minutes, he put her in the box and closed it. He then used both hands to pat the box hard enough to make a small thud, and said "There you go!".

    So I did some research tonight and found this:
    "A duck has a very strong, limber neck and many duck breeders do catch them by the neck. I usually grab the wings on the ducks and geese. NEVER grab them by the leg unless you are butchering them right that minute. The legs are weak and it causes a lot of pain."

    Now, either way, I'm not going to pick my ducks up by the neck or legs. It just sounds wrong, and I'm never going to forget how my sweet faced duck looked upside down like that. However, I want to know if people actually do grab them by the neck. If they do and it doesn't hurt, wouldn't they still be more terrified considering predators attack necks? And as for the legs, does it cause all ducks a lot of pain? If so, I think I'd like to go share that knowledge next time I go to that supply store.

    Here is the cage they had them in:
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    And this is her:
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    So needless to say, she is afraid of me. I'm really hoping that tomorrow when she is hungry she will give me a chance. I hand feed my Harlequins and they are pretty friendly toward me. So tomorrow morning when she is hungry I will try to bribe her with vegges, fruits, and pellets. Unfortunately, Emma won't be helping me because Emma and her gang of 2 drakes are acting aggressive toward my Muscovy. I read on someone's post that they left a new duck in a flock and after 2 days of fighting they established a pecking order and were fine. After I try to feed her in the morning, I'm going to supervise them together.
    (*Note: Emma and her gang of 2 drakes: This was an accident. I was supposed to receive one male and one female but they ended up being both male. One is being returned tomorrow afternoon)

    My Muscovy seems to have at least a little desire to be with them. My Harlequins went swimming together and despite all the hostility she jumped in the pool with them. However, she just zoomed across and jumped out the other side lol. When the Harlequins were removed from the coop, though, she didn't get in the pool. The Harlequins are in the "outside" coop. The "inside" coop is covered by shed roofing, while the "outside" coop is covered with metal fencing. There is a small door for the ducks to go in and out, but I shut it for tonight so I could supervise the first day together tomorrow just in case.

    Hopefully this gets sorted out quickly. I think she will be a lot happier here. Probably not hard to make her life better, considering she had wire floor, shallow drinking water that is probably not changed enough, no pool to swim in or bathe, crowded area, and not treated will by humans. I bought her from a business but I practically feel like I rescued her, even if my ducks are being mean. Unfortunately, with all going on, I forgot to ask her age. I plan to call the woman tomorrow to see if I can find out.

    I'll post some photos of my coop tomorrow with her. :)
     
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  2. ChickenGrass

    ChickenGrass Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I think that store worker is disgusting
    Why would you treat a defensless animal like that?
    The way he was talking about them too is inappropriate for a worker.
    I think you should go back to the store and complain about him,
    For the way he held the duck and the way he spoke to you about them.
    And tell them how to properly handle a duck.
    That pen is too small and they don't even have a pool.
    Do they have a shelter.

    Thankfully you "rescued" the girl from prison.
    She is beautiful :love and good luck with her,
    Fionn.
     
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  3. Nyxsie

    Nyxsie Out Of The Brooder

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    I would I could have taken more. :(
    I don't think they ever let them out of that cage, the top is covered and that is all for shelter. The only animals I see out of their cages are the piglets, because they escape daily. I mentioned to the owner that if they need help feeding and caring for the animals that I would love to do that. She took my name and number, hopefully they will allow me to do that. At least I could make a difference in the animal's life there. Next to the Muscovies are Welsh Harlequins, and somewhere out of sight they have Pekin and Indian Runners.

    Another story on that guy. I told him I use hay for my coop and he said what he does is turns the dirt, adding lime powder to disinfect and kill insects. From everything else, I'm going to guess that is not good either. I really like using hay. It's super easy because all you have to do is roll it up to remove, and it looks nice and keeps the ducks from sitting in dirt too. It seems like he has a grudge against Muscovy ducks for no reason at all. He said he likes other ducks. All ducks poop. lol. They will all get dirty too if you don't let them bathe.

    I should have trusted my instinct and spoke up or swooped her into my arms or something. Ughhhhhhhh.

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  4. Nyxsie

    Nyxsie Out Of The Brooder

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    ...and good morning.

    Inside coop. Don't mind the bags of dirty hay, haven't moved it yet lol. Used to be mulch in that first area... the hay kinda took over.
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    Outside coop. I wish I could plant grass but a tortoise lives here. Would never work. Hoping to plant some trees though.
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    Tortoise lol.
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    They have been chasing her all morning. Cornering her. She hid behind the kennel once as well.
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    I feel bad for her. She's terrified of them, of me, and probably everything else here too. Hopefully when I return one of the males today, they will decide to open up a spot for her. If anyone has a suggestion, let me know.
     
  5. Bills vs Beaks

    Bills vs Beaks Overrun With Chickens

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    I pick my ducks up by holding each side, keeping the wing down so they cant flap. Like this
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    Then I slide an arm under their belly and stroke their back with the other hand. NEVER by the legs, or the head. Thats just mean. Dangling a duck by the neck!![​IMG] ( you can actually pull the legs off if you are rough enough!!)
    Never trust a feed store person if they have a bad attitude about ducks. I am lucky, coz at my TSC, theres a guy that really likes ducks, and is happy to help you with them. And he picks them up nicely[​IMG]
    Hope everyone stops picking on her, and that she will be happy now that she has nice water to get CLEAN in. Nice job[​IMG]
     
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  6. Miss Lydia

    Miss Lydia Running over with Blessings Premium Member

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    @Nyxsie It's always best to keep newbies to the flock separate for a while but where everyone can see each other then give supervised visits till everyone has accepted her. As long as they know she is afraid of them they will take advantage. And she doesn't speak their language being she is Muscovy and they aren't so if you could maybe get another female Muscovy for company for her? And you'd be rescuing another one too. Your scovy looks young.

    I'd go back ask to speak to the owner and tell her what this employee said and did and that you were so upset by it you were thinking of reporting them but decided to talk to her first. That may get her to do something about him.

    Muscovy's are awesome ducks and no animal should be treated like that. Bless you for caring.

    She'll come around give her time and space and love and treats.
     
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  7. chickens really

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    As usual I totally agree with
    @Miss Lydia


    Poor Little Ducky..........She will need another Muscovy to buddy up to......


    Glad you rescued her....I have a rescue Duck myself.....She was so scared.....Only took her a few day to see that she was safe and that I would not hurt her...She was attacked by a Fox and even trusts my Dogs now.........


    Cheer!
     
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  8. ChickenGrass

    ChickenGrass Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Nice set up and nice ducks.
    I hope that they eat you help so you can improve the living
    Standards of the animals.
    They don't even have a shelter, they should have one.
    I don't think that having lime in the hay is good.
    That burns the insides of animals eg.rats
    I read that somewhere.
    I like hay too.
    I use it in all of my breeding pens and brooders,
    Do you think you will save any other ducks?
    Goodluck
    Fionn.
     
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  9. chickens really

    chickens really Chicken Obsessed

    I wanted to comment on the leg dangle catch......That is very wrong on a Duck and a Chicken......The neck catching does work but it is only to get a better hold of the body before you pick them up....You sure do not wring their poor necks!!

    Jeepers, people have zero common sense when it comes to animals.......



    Cheers to the critters.......
     
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  10. ChickenGrass

    ChickenGrass Chillin' With My Peeps

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    That's the way I hold ducks,
    I also hold chickens like that too.
    How could you hold a duck by the neck.
    I know it's safe but I would be scared incase I snapped the ducks neck.
    It's even worse about the store worker holding the duck by the legs.
    Fionn.
     
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