We will soon be making the run bigger and would like your opinions, pros, cons, and insight as to what would be best. Still working on the new coop, roof is on now. Trying to get things done before cold weather comes. Hard since there's not much daylight when DH gets home. This pic is a possible plan of the new run. Coops are outlined in red. The windows are not shown. Run may turn out to be 14x26 - not sure. 8x26 would still give them 18sqft each of outside. Explanation: Big Coop will have some storage space walled off. On the West wall, there will be a small chicken door. The large door will be within the walled off area for storage and used for my access into their feeding area. The door between the Little Coop and Big Coop is just a homemade hardware cloth door. The chicken door is on the west wall of the Little Coop. There is a Little Run right outside with a regular door for access to/from the Big Run. The Big Run door is on the East edge, next to the South wall of the Big Coop. Some specific questions I have: 1. The run needs to be at least 6' high as we are both tall. Even with that, DH won't be able to stand up straight, but he very seldom goes in there! Would 8' 4x4s be good for posts or could we get by with something cheaper? What might that be? Maybe 6' 4x4s but then we'll lose some height when they're set into the ground.... How far do you think these posts should be set into the ground? 2. What type of fencing between the posts would be best? Chicken wire, welded wire? Field fence? I've looked at pictures from Southern States and TSC, but I'm not sure of the difference between the welded wire and field fence. Is there anything else that would work but be cheaper? 3. How far apart should the posts be with each of the above? 4. Predators haven't bothered them but once, when something got in the coop at night and we lost 2 and 1 died a week later, but we shored up the coop that same day, but not the run. Might be none of them has been very hungry yet, either, but with winter coming, that may change. Right now it's those green metal fence sticks and chicken wire with a 2x4 stapled to the bottom. Not exactly predator proof at all. There's netting over the top, but it is so worn now that it has holes and tears all over. Ground is harder than rocks, so digging (for us, that is!) is almost next to impossible. Not many $$ to use, want to do our best with what we have. 5. What about regular chicken wire at the bottom, and into the ground (if we can get into the ground) and up the side of whatever we use for the fence? How far into the ground to prevent predator digging? 6. Are 2x4 inch holes too big for the upper part of the fence? I've seen lots of pics on here with what appears to be the welded wire type fencing with 2x4 holes. Seems they usually have some type of wire at the bottom as well, over the 2x4 holes... 7. What kind of construction would be best to hold up the top of the run- and would regular chicken wire suffice for this? Would it hold up against leaves and snow if it were supported throughout? Any and all suggestions, plans, etc. are most welcome. I've thoroughly enjoyed looking through coop pages and now it's time for us to do something more permanent with ours, especially with winter coming. Everyone on here has been so helpful as we try to keep these chickens! Thanks so much!