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Not Sure if the chick is dead inside the egg. Sorry, incubating newbie

Discussion in 'Hatch-A-Longs' started by cocopop, Aug 7, 2013.

  1. cocopop

    cocopop Chillin' With My Peeps

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    It is day 19 and no piping and no movement. I thought I saw movement before. I don't want to be hasty and call it dead. Should I candle it in water to see if there is movement? What day should I see piping? This egg was the only egg that was solid black with an air sack at day 15. The other three died early and two not fertile. This egg is my only hope If the egg rolled around a little because the incubator was tilted a little, would that kill the chick? Temp fluctuations kill the chick? In the morning it would be 98 deg F and the afternoon would be 101 deg F. How long should I wait before giving up? During lock down, can you open up the incubator to add water? Any advise would be appreciated.
     
  2. Wyandottes7

    Wyandottes7 Overrun With Chickens

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    Are these chicken eggs? If so, chicken eggs usually hatch at 21 days or later. However, with that said, eggs usually internally pip 24-48 hours before hatching. So, your chick may be a little late. If you still see movement, keep it in the incubator. One time, I was hatching White Wyandotte bantam eggs. The chick didn't pip until day 21 or so. I would see it constantly moving inside the egg, but it took a long time to pip. In the end, the chick hatched successfully on day 24, which is quite late. So, the moral to that story is, don't give up on the egg! It may just hatch a little late.[​IMG]

    I would be a little concerned that you only have one egg that can hatch. One chick will be quite lonely on its own, though there are several things that you can do to help it. You can give it a small mirror, and some stuffed animals to snuggle against. Of course, the real solution is to get more chicks![​IMG]
     
  3. cocopop

    cocopop Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Wyandottes7, thanks for the info. I don't see my Serama egg moving but I am only waiting a minute. You mentioned that you can saw your chick moving inside the egg on Day 21. Does that mean your egg was moving or you can see the chick moving inside the egg when you candle it? Can the chick die if temp fluctuates form 97 deg F to 101 deg F. This changes from morning to Afternoon. It is stable at 100 deg F from the afternoon to night. Does the developing chick fragile to temp variations? Does the egg move constantly throughout the day, or only certain parts of the and I am no seeing it? I really don't want to give up on this chick.
     
  4. Wyandottes7

    Wyandottes7 Overrun With Chickens

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    At day 21, I could see the chick inside the egg moving. My incubator has clear sides, and the eggs are positioned near the edge, so I just shined a high-intensity LED flashlight through the edge. This allowed me to check on the chick without opening up the incubator, handling the egg, etc.

    Yes, a chicken embryo can die from fluctations in temperature. Are you using a still-air incubator, or a forced-air incubator. 97 degrees-101 degrees is too low for a still air incubator, but isn't too bad for a forced air one. You want to keep a still-air incubator at 101-103 degrees F. Lower temperatures will make eggs hatch late.

    When the egg was getting ready to internally pip in preparation for hatching, I could see movement almost every time I candled. I would see a dark shadow with what looked like a beak jabbing upwards. Eventually, when the chick broke through the inner shell membrane (internal pipping), it started peeping, so I knew that it was going to hatch.

    I hope that all goes well with your egg!
     
  5. cocopop

    cocopop Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thanks for the reply. I have an Innovative Farm still air incubator. I was worried about it going over 102 degrees F in the afternoon if I adjust it to 99 degrees F in the morning. I will try to find a happy medium. So you don't think 103 deg F is not too much for a Serama Bantam egg? Thanks for your advise and info on the piping and candling. So you would not advise me to open the incubator during lock down to candle or add water?
     
  6. Wyandottes7

    Wyandottes7 Overrun With Chickens

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    Well, 103 is the high range to safely operate a still-air incubator. If I was you, I'd try to keep it at 101 degrees. Try to open the incubator as little as possible during lockdown.
     
  7. Dodo8

    Dodo8 Out Of The Brooder

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    I am incubating chicken eggs and it's day 24. None have Hatched! 0! Candling no use because at this point you couldn't see veins in an alive chick. What should I do to find out? Should I wait, discard them, or disect them I'm not quite sure. I wan't to know whats wrong.[​IMG]
     
  8. Dodo8

    Dodo8 Out Of The Brooder

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    [​IMG]Today I looked inside. Something went terribly wrong because they showed embryos but at very early stages. I won't be having any chicks. :(
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  9. cocopop

    cocopop Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sorry to hear that. Mine all died in the egg and a coupled pipped and died a little later. I am getting discouraged because this is my 7th try. I tried different incubators and just started using different pairs just in case my breeding pairs produce week chicks. I feel disappointed thinking my luck would change. Most people would have quit after 5 tries. I am determined now to at least hatch something out.
     
  10. brilliamsfamily

    brilliamsfamily New Egg

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    Hi was wondering I have one egg thats due to hatch,but from the outside I can see wat looks like a blood patch inside the shell about sz of a 20c piece, does anyone know wat it would be?
     

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