Thanks to ChooksChick's post, we're one of the many that ordered the Octagon 20 ECO, with turner. We set 12 eggs, and only had to cull one clear. Starting at 1:10 this morning, I heard the first peeps. So far 5 have hatched, and three more are pipping and zipping. All so far are hearty and strutting their stuff. All the BYC folks that said this is idiot-proof were right on the mark. Our new chicks are a mix of Barred Rock and Red Leghorn roosters with Barred Rock, Buff Orpington, and Red Leghorn hens. Two buff chicks, and three black of the 5 that have hatched out. Looks like #6 will be out in a few minutes. Thanks again ChooksChick!