Oh My God, The Government Wants to Kill My Chickens (MS)

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by EggDropSoup, Dec 20, 2013.

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  1. EggDropSoup

    EggDropSoup Chillin' With My Peeps

    Sep 12, 2012
    I am absolutely sick right now.

    I had a necropsy done on a bird (she died of EYP), but she also tested positive for MS.


    My coop is apparently 5 miles from a Pilgrim's broiler house.

    The state vet called me. My flock has created an uproar with their MS.

    He has told me to be prepared for a forced culling. I just bought a house further away and was about to move my chickens to their new home. I explained that they're just pets. I have a closed flock.

    He told me they will pay me for my losses.

    I don't want money. I want my chickens. Is this really something they can FORCE me to do??
  2. gander007

    gander007 Chicken Obsessed

    Oh yes they can because it would cast more to get a lawyer and
    fight it and you would most likely not win in the end [​IMG]
    Please keep this one up dated ......

    gander007 [​IMG]
  3. The Yakima Kid

    The Yakima Kid Cirque des Poulets

    Yes, they can force you to do this. It's horrible. In states that cull for this, it usually doesn't matter if you are five or fifty or five hundred miles from the nearest commercial plant. You will really need to thoroughly clean the housing and run area if they cull your flock, and it is probably a good idea to let it set vacant for several weeks before putting any chickens in it.

    This is from the UFLAS

    ~~Mycoplasma synoviae Synonyms: MS, infectious synovitis, synovitis, silent air sac Species affected: chickens and turkeys. Clinical signs: Birds infected with the synovitis form show lameness, followed by lethargy, reluctance to move, swollen joints, stilted gait, loss of weight, and formation of breast blisters. Birds infected with the respiratory form exhibit respiratory distress. Greenish diarrhea is common in dying birds (see Table 1). Clinically, the disease in indistinguishable from MG. Transmission: MS is transmitted from infected breeder to progeny via the egg. Within a flock, MS is spread by direct contact with infected birds as well as through airborne particles over short distances. Treatment: Recovery is slow for both respiratory and synovitis forms. Several antibiotics are variably effective. The most effective are tylosin, erthromycin, spectinomycin, lincomycin, and chlorotectracycline. These antibiotics can be given by injection while some can be administered in the feed or drinking water. These treatments are most effective when the antibiotics are injected. Prevention: Eradication is the best and only sure control. Do not use breeder replacements from flocks that have had MS. The National Poultry Improvement Plan monitors for MS.
  4. ChickensAreSweet

    ChickensAreSweet Heavenly Grains for Hens

    Posting here so I can read any updates...sorry I don't know the answer to your question.
  5. The Yakima Kid

    The Yakima Kid Cirque des Poulets

    And yeah, it's awful.
  6. dawg53

    dawg53 Humble Premium Member

    Nov 27, 2008
    Jacksonville, Florida
    I'm sorry that you're going through this. However, it would be in your best interest to have your birds culled. They will always have MS and will transmit it to new incoming birds that you acquire. There are no cures for mycoplasma diseases in chickens, treatments mask symptoms temporarily. I wish you the best.
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  7. ten chicks

    ten chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 9, 2013
    This is a nightmare and i am so very sorry you have to go through this. This is one reason i personally would never,ever have a necropsy done on any of my birds,to great a risk of this happening.

    Have they tested the Pilgrim's broiler operation as they may have it also,perhaps your girl contracted it from them. I would suggest you ask these questions and demand the birds from this other operation get tested also. Do you have the lab results stating for a fact your bird had MS,i am surprised none of your other girls show symptoms. Why has your flock created an uproar,has someone told this other operation? I personally would demand to know if any other flocks within your area have been tested,i would think you should be entitled to this information. Before they do a forced culling,make sure you get your other girls tested,they can pay for it.

    Check the laws where you live,see if there is a loophole that you can use to your advantage. I am surprised that state culling doesn't exist for birds with Marek's as it to,is easily transmitted. MS is a old disease,it has been reported in books dating back 100 years,referred to as the common cold,and is treated with Tylan and Baytril.
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  8. enola

    enola Overrun With Chickens

    There are certain diseases that vets MUST report. MS is probably one of those diseases. The chicken farm down the road has nothing to do with your chickens. Testing the other hens won't help anything.
  9. ten chicks

    ten chicks Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 9, 2013
    Unless the chickens down the road have it also,that puts a different perspective on this issue. I would want to know this information as her birds contracted it from somewhere.

    I always look for loopholes that i can use to my advantage,love nothing better than to research legal documents and challenge what i can.

    The reason i was asking about testing your girls is the one with EYP,MS may been activated in her due to this,often stressors or some other issue will activate certain diseases and your other girls may be fine.
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  10. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member Project Manager

    Jun 24, 2012
    My Coop
    Do your research and find out if it's a reportable disease in your State and what the laws are. California does not cull flocks with MS and MG.

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