Oh no - POX! :( Casino and the kids, Beyonce and Bronty -the saga

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  1. emilysteng

    emilysteng Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm back with stories of my semi wild hen Casino and her babies.

    Well, Casino's babies, who are now 4 months old, are doing well. After their big fight in early December and their subsequent "kicking out" by mom a few days later, they have stuck together and are so big now. Sometimes they spar for a second, but for now they stay together most of the time. Bronty is boss and pecks Beyonce or chases him away sometimes when they are eating. Casino still scares them and chases them away when she is eating. Just last week, Bronty started crowing for the first time. Beyonce hasn't tried yet. Here they are just yesterday. I noticed Beyonce doesn't put her tail up. Is that cause putting it up would mean she is challenging/trying to be dominant? Haha, I'm pretty Beyonce is a roo but I'm so used to saying she. [​IMG]

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    Casino has been hanging the current Boss Rooster (Emilio) and another hen (Big Momma). For a few weeks Emilio's favorite was this other hen (Henny) but last week I saw Henny with a different rooster so his current harem is just Casino and Big Momma. I noticed Casino do the "squat" last week and this week she started looking for a nest. This is the first time since she had Beyonce and Bronty. So I made her a nice box and put a white rock she thinks is an egg in there for her. She checked the box out and Wednesday acted like she laid an egg in there. Even came out and started throwing leaves on her back like she does when she lays. Thursday afternoon I saw her in there tending to her rock - rolling it around and stuff. Finally Friday morning there was an egg in there with the rock. I don't want her to have another batch of babies so I took the egg and put another rock in there. Do you think I can keep tricking her with the rocks? I imagine another egg will be there when I get to work on Monday morning. Last time she started sitting on them when there were 3.

    Ideally I'd like her to lay the eggs in there so I can get them, but not get to the point where she hardly leaves the nest. What's the best strategy?

    Here's a current pic of her with her gang. There's Emilio with Big Momma's head popping out behind him. She was in the process of running away when I took the picture. In the second picture she is gone into the bushes. It's funny how when I come near Emilio always makes his warning sound, Big Momma runs away and Casino comes towards me. Emilio is very protective of her right now. When she was in her box (which is in a covered area where we keep supplies and work) he was crouching behind a shelf like he was going to pounce on something. Beyonce and Bronty do hang around Casino and her gang too. Kind of like wannabes of their gang.

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    This rooster here, (I call him Foghorn) is always trying to challenge Emilio.

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    He runs around in Emilio's area and sometimes chases his hens. The other day he came after Casino while I was standing there with her - pretty bold. The other afternoon I heard a ruckus and then saw Big Momma being chased by Foghorn, who was being chased by Emilio. Foghorn veered off and went back into the bushes. Watching them all interact is so fascinating!
     
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  2. gritsar

    gritsar Cows, Chooks & Impys - OH MY!

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    Nice pics! [​IMG]
     
  3. emilysteng

    emilysteng Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ugh - just when I thought things were pretty settled down. Just found out the chicks have pox. Sent some pictures to the girl at the local hatchery and she is quite sure that is what it is. [​IMG] Gonna have to try and catch them tomorrow and treat the sores. Hope they get better soon. Anyone have experience with wild chickens and pox? One has it on her comb and wattle, other has a sore above his eye and some on the comb. No other signs of problems and I don't think anything in their mouth - but I'll check more closely when I catch them. They are acting completely normal.

    No egg from Casino either. I don't think she is going somewhere else though, she was acting normal and hanging around today. Maybe tomorrow. I hope she doesn't get pox also.
     
  4. gritsar

    gritsar Cows, Chooks & Impys - OH MY!

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    Quote:Those pics you posted are kinda far away, but I don't see any pox. Do you have some close up pics?
     
  5. emilysteng

    emilysteng Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Here are the pictures of the chicks.

    Beyonce: [​IMG] Beyonce has more spots.

    Bronty: [​IMG] [​IMG] Bronty has the one on his eye.

    Are the white/yellow spots on the ends of their combs also pox?

    If I use listerine, does it have to be original listerine? Because there is that mint/blue flavored one, Generic. Does it matter?
     
  6. easttxchick

    easttxchick Lone Star Call Ducks

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    I've read iodine will work on Pox as well.
    I'm not sure, but aren't the active ingredients in all of the different kinds Listerine the same with the exception of some flavoring?
    They sure are pretty birds.
     
  7. gritsar

    gritsar Cows, Chooks & Impys - OH MY!

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    Yep, that looks like pox to me too. [​IMG]
    I wasn't aware that there is a treatment for the pox. However, if I were going to use listerine for any medicinal purpose, I would definitely use the original (gold-colored) kind.
    Here's a little more info. on fowl pox:

    http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/63/fowl-pox-pox-avian-pox

    Easttxchick suggested iodine and I think that's a good idea as well. Iodine is hard to find nowadays though. You may have to ask the pharmacist for some. Try a mom and pop type pharmacy, not a mass merchandiser one.
     
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  8. easttxchick

    easttxchick Lone Star Call Ducks

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    Kat, I think these treatments are basically to cause the pox spots to dry up and fall off-not sure if it's much of a "treatment", so to speak.
    Good point about the original Listerine-tried and true and guaranteed to burn the hare off a hare.
     
  9. gritsar

    gritsar Cows, Chooks & Impys - OH MY!

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    Sheila, I'm sorry. I reposted before I saw your reply. I defer to your experience. [​IMG]
     
  10. emilysteng

    emilysteng Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Well, I got iodine and listerine. The hatchery also suggested neosporin and this probiotic solution they gave me. When I swab some of the scabby stuff comes off. The thing that looks the worse is the ends of their combs. Is that also from the pox? The swollen yellow/white areas on tips of their comb?

    They seem to really hate the listerine. It probably burns.

    I was told this is the beginning stages of the problem? So should I expect it to get worse or start to get better? I don't see anything around their mouths. They are acting normal - hungry as ever. Scratching around, running around, etc. Bronty is starting to act more and more like a big boy rooster. Today he started doing that thing where he is trying to show someone some food on the ground. But I'm not sure who he thinks he's calling over.

    Guess I am just worried about them. Thanks for everyone's help.
     

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