Hello everyone. In February I'll be getting a dozen chicks to raise and breed, but I'm struggling deciding between Sussex and Orpingtons (neither of which I have seen in person). My goals are to have a relatively quiet, decent laying, very friendly bird (as I have three young children). I would like to concentrate on a single breed, as I'd like to also sell purebred chicks as we get 'em and do a little to help a heritage breed. We will be getting our chicks from a breeder here at BYC, and not a hatchery to ensure good stock. Everything that I keep hearing about Orpingtons is that they are HUGE birds, and this concerns me a bit. I don't know exactly how tall they are, but folks make 'em out to sound like they are a three foot tall monster. In my mind I *think* sussex are a tad smaller--so I hope someone can correct my imagination. I've been searching out information on how tall sussex and orpingtons are (in inches), but can't seem to dig up any info on that. I was hoping to stick with standard sized birds instead of having to go bantam. But I may consider bantams if the eggs aren't too small. I'd be perfectly happy with an equivalent graded medium sized standard egg if either of these bantams could produce anything relatively close to that size. We do have hawks in the area, so I figured I'd be better off with standards rather than bantams. I just don't know how big bantam sussex or orpingtons are. I see lots of references to them being 1/3 or 1/4 the size, but since i have no real understanding of what the large bird size is, the comparison is kinda useless. I wish we had a local breeder so I could see them, but we don't. Can you guys help me decide. Which would you choose--Sussex or Orpington if you could have only one of these breeds.