Orpingtons and Black Copper Marans? I may have been misled....

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by DarkWater1929, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. DarkWater1929

    DarkWater1929 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hi! I was told that these darlings were all pullets.
    The two darkest ones, one black and one now a deep brown/grey, were represented to be Black Copper Marans.
    The other three were said to be Orpingtons, buff, lavender and blue, respectively.
    Well, several weeks later (I guess these kids are about 6 weeks? Maybe a bit older?) only the buff and lavender Orps seem to be familiar looking, so far as their purported breed is concerned, but with some room for doubt still, I feel.
    I am not at all sure that all of them they are pullets, either.
    So, anyone care to hazard a guess or five? I appreciate all input!

    As an aside, I adore their personalities, so whatever they are, they are safe with me. :)

    1) The group

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    2) "Black Copper Maran" A
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    4) "Black Copper Maran" A

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    5) "Black Copper Maran" B
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    6) "Black Copper Maran" B
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    7) "Black Copper Maran" B
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    8) Lavender and Buff "Orpingtons"
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    9) "Lavender Orpington"
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    10) "Lavender Orpington"
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    12) "Blue Orpington"
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    14) "Blue Orpington"
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  2. StarMeKritten

    StarMeKritten Chillin' With My Peeps

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  3. Chicken Girl1

    Chicken Girl1 Loving the Autumn Weather Premium Member

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    The "Buff" Orpington that is next to the "lavender" Orpington looks Red.
     
  4. donrae

    donrae Hopelessly Addicted Premium Member

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    My thoughts also. it will help to repost when they're a touch older, but I'm not seeing good representations of the breeds you were told.
     
  5. junebuggena

    junebuggena Chicken Obsessed

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    It's a bit hard to be sure with the lighting of these pictures, but I'm seeing a lot of yellow skin/legs for chicks that are supposed to be white skinned breeds. White skin is dominant, by the way.
     
  6. DarkWater1929

    DarkWater1929 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Thank you all so much! I expect that you are correct and that they are just nice little barnyard mixes. Sigh. Well, I have several such hens already, and they are all good layers. It's just that my husband, who was never a particular chicken fan before, has fallen in love with orpingtons. He really communicates with those girls! Too funny.

    At any rate, I continue to be fascinated by the genetics of chickens. Perhaps it is just my limited education on the topic, but I am always surprised by which genes are dominant! In other ... Organisms, it seems to me, it is the darker (like eyes, skin and hair), straighter (like hair and smooth peas), that dominate. So, that frizzled feathers, rose combs and white skin should be dominant seems counter-intuitive to me. What other traits are dominant, if you wouldn't mind listing a few? Or is there already a thread that lists them?

    Thank you again, very much, for your time!
     
  7. StarMeKritten

    StarMeKritten Chillin' With My Peeps

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    A few other fun dominant traits are feathered legs, blue egg shells, crests, and extra toes. :)
     
  8. junebuggena

    junebuggena Chicken Obsessed

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    Pea combs are dominant over rose combs, I believe. And silver-type colors (black and white) are dominant over gold/red colors. Then there are dominant/recessive modifiers. There is the dominant blue dilute gene for black that causes Blue/Black/Splash, and the recessive blue dilute gene for black, commonly called Lavender or self-blue. There is also dominant white and recessive white, and certain breeds only have dominant white, some only have recessive white, and others have both. And I just recently learned that Buff Orpingtons can carry dominant white, but not express it.
    Black is basically a pattern gene that completely covers the base color of either gold or silver. Dominant white will turn all the black to white and can allow the base color through.

    Chicken genetics can get very complicated, very quickly.
     
  9. Bridebeliever

    Bridebeliever Chillin' With My Peeps

    Just as a side note. They all look to be about 3 or 4 weeks old in the pictures. Are they old pictures? They just don't look 6 weeks old.
     

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