Pale dry slightly swollen faced hen. Possibly scaly leg on face?

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  1. kimmj

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    My 2 year old Pekin Cross has started suffering from a dry pale and slightly swollen face for the second year in a row. She is perfectly fine within her self and is going about her days exactly like she normally would. She hasn't got any sort of discharge coming from her eyes or nose, but I have noticed she has started sneezing sometimes. She looks like she is slightly swollen above her eyes but the rest of her face seems normal apart from being dry and pale. I have heard that scaly leg can effect the face but I've not seen this before so I wouldn't have a clue!. I have two chickens that have scaly leg at the moment but they've been separate from this hen. She had the same problem last year when she was in her broody enclosure with her chicks but I put it down to being stressed and wanting to be back free ranging in the garden. This year she's been in her broody enclosure for 14 weeks, she has plent of food/water and space. She seemes to have enjoyed rearing her chicks tthis year and I was surprised to see this problem come back a few days before letting her back into the garden to free range with the others. Any advice would be greatly appreciated and if anyone has had this problem or a similar one please feel free to comment :) [​IMG]
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  2. chooks4life

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    Well, I've not heard of scaly leg mite affecting the face but do know other birds have scaly face mite as well as scaly leg mite, they're not the same thing in that case.

    Does it have a mousy, musty sort of smell?

    Are you sure it's not lice eggs?

    Her wattle color and distribution of color is not ideal, it shows her cardiovascular system is under the weather a bit; adding some cayenne or tabasco and cold pressed olive oil to her diet would do her a world of good for both problems, with the added benefit of the olive oil taking care of any scaly skin caused by lack of good oils in the diet; it's possible this is what she's showing.

    The average commercial layer/grower pellets with their often synthetic or petroleum-derived oils just don't cut it for good heart health or total health, at all. These feeds are not designed for longevity, only for a 2-year lifespan before culling and replacing. Worth keeping in mind if you want your hens to live long, healthy lives, especially if you're breeding them; hens need more nutrients than they get from a layer diet for breeding, or both they and their chicks suffer the deficit, which becomes a multi-generational malnutrition deficit which causes many diseases that many people don't know are due to this.

    Best wishes.
     
  3. kimmj

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    Thanks for your advice Chooks4life!.

    it doesn't look to be lice/mites or lice eggs. It's almost as if she has eczema on her as she has small flakes off dry skin coming from her face. I'm wondering if it may be an allergic reaction to something? But I haven't given her different food/bedding so I'm really stuck on what could have caused this.

    I've heard about adding cayenne to their diet so once I read your comment I added some to her water feeder, and some olive oil to her food. Hopefully it will help her perk up!. Do you have a recommendation to the amount of cayenne/olive oil to add to food/water?.

    The feed she's eating at the moment is organic with no GM ingredients, which has a combination of omega6 and omega 3 oils she usually has a small amount of corn late afternoon or fruit/veg so I think what she's eating is ok. What feed do you personally use or recommend?.

    It's so bizarre, I just can't seem to figure out what the problem is. Her face just isn't right, she has never been a bright faced bird, she's always been a pale colour which I think is due to what she's crossed with but I did notice her entire face was a bright red (healthy red) the day or so before it went like this which is unusual for her to have so much colour
     
  4. welasharon

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    Yes they can get them on the head, face, and comb. You can coat them with vegetable oil to smother them. Has she been wormed?
     
  5. Suzie

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    She may have Favus...look up the symptoms...it can cause the look your chicken is showing and can account for the swelling around her eye...you can treat with a cream for athletes foot or leave her to heal on her own...it can take some weeks for it to disappear...natural sunshine is good for any chicken with favus...
     
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  7. robknapp

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    Hi folks, I wondered if you had success with this. My gold-laced Orp has the exact same thing. Six weeks ago her face was deep red, now identical to your pics. She is about 22 weeks & isn't laying yet. Did you sort it/come to some conclusions. My other 5 hens seem fine. Many thanks, Rob [​IMG][/IMG]
     
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