Peafowl Arrived Early, Need Advice on Health, THANKS!

Discussion in 'Peafowl' started by yeye5, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. yeye5

    yeye5 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I've been researching and taking my time with this decision. I have a small flock of chickens and many years ago I tried keeping 2 white peafowl who met a quick demise as there are many predators where I live.
    This time, I'm doing almost everything differently.

    The situation:
    A friend (who tends to get bored easily) impulsively bought/traded for 5 peafowl, genders unknown, that appeared to be from 3 different hatch dates, maybe 3-5 weeks apart.
    I guesstimate them at 2+ months, 3+ months and 4+ months but I'm pretty clueless.
    When he tired of the project I offered to buy them, paid for 2 and wanted a 3rd, have been here researching sexing so I don't unintentionally create a conflicting or stressful environment if I end up with 2 males.
    I have friends and supplies coming this Saturday (in 5 more days) to build the initial "juvie enclosure", then I was going to pick them up the following week.
    My friend called saying he "failed peafowl 101", which meant he found one already dead that morning and another acting sickly/weak with the same presentation as the one that had then died. (I knew nothing of this until the call).
    He brought the weak one into his house and asked me to take the other 3 right then, as in 15 minutes he'd be at my house with a box of random peafowl.
    Despite the non-ideal situation, I decided from the not so great options to agree.

    I sterilized a very large dog carrier (the biggest enclosed safe containment I could come up with on short notice), layered the bottom with clean white pillow cases.
    For food I offered medicated chicken chick starter-grower (18% protein, which I know is too low but it's what I had that minute). I mixed in dried mealworms. Fresh water comes from my own well. Dishes are stable, pillow cases offer soft bedding as there are about 20 in there!

    I see no overt signs of distress, no snotty nose nor wheezing, no cuts, no abrasions, feather quality looks good.
    They each seem to be eating with moderate interest, drank a nice amount of water, which I am removing every couple of hours to dump, re-sterilize the bowl, refill.

    I hope and pray that my feed store is open today (they're closed weekends but today is a holiday...I will call shortly).

    Supplies I have here now:
    *Tiny amount remaining of the med chick starter (plan to get a new bag today/tomorrow as I have chicken chicks hopefully hatching this week).
    *Dried mealworms.
    *Granite based grit And oyster shell supplement.
    *Purina "Layena" laying feed (18%) fortified with calcium.(I'm concerned about too much calcium which is why the got the starter chick feed).
    *Cracked Corn.
    *Dry cat food.

    I apologize for the too-long post. I feel that details may help me get advice quickest.
    I will take and post pics shortly.

    What is on my shopping list at the feed store? Can I supplement their protein with cooked chicken eggs? Are there any household food items that are good? Any that are bad to be avoided?

    Thank you in advance for helping me and the surprise pea-peeps!
     
  2. yeye5

    yeye5 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Here are pics of each. For the sake of clarity, I will make one post for each chick.

    Other questions and comments I've come up with since my 1st post:
    They each feel too bony or thin when I hold them. To my knowledge they were not wormed at my friend's house, no clue if they were wormed prior. Is that something I should consider? If so what are names of good products?
    I'd also love it if anyone can help with sexing them.
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  3. yeye5

    yeye5 Chillin' With My Peeps

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  4. yeye5

    yeye5 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Peachick #3
    *note please in one of the pics of the feet how it is holding his/her feet strangely with toe/s curling slightly under.

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  5. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    Hello there and
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    Congratulations on your new peababies! I'd say you have three girls there I must confess that I'm not so good at peachick sexing.[​IMG]

    You might take a little browse on the BYC Peachick Chart for age comparisons, etc:
    http://peafowlimagedatabase.weebly.com/peachick-chart.html

    It sounds like you are doing a great job so far, and you were very smart to keep your peababies away from the chickens for now.
    The experts will pop in here with health advice shortly, I'm sure!
    In the meantime, you say they seem thin, have you seen them eating and drinking?

    Usually, when chicks have curled toes like that they are fairly easily remedied by making "shoes"; there are several thread discussing what they are and how to make them (see, especially, they excellent photos provided by @KsKingBee ). However, I'm not sure if this baby is too old for this treatment...anyone?

    *After looking at the pictures, it looks like #2 has some kind of issue with her beak, you might keep an eye on her, and others may have some comment. Be sure that you have a fairly deep water dish, as they need to be able to dip their beaks in deep enough to clear their nares (this wisdom care of @zazouse !)
     
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  6. KsKingBee

    KsKingBee Overrun With Chickens

    Keep them on medicated chick starter for now and consider getting some Safeguard for Goats and deworm them, Also look for Sulmet or another of the sulfa drugs and treat them for cocci. Keep the chicks warm and watch them for signs of going downhill. Oh, and congrats on the three hens, ok, one might be a cock but you will know soon enough.
     
  7. yeye5

    yeye5 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The situation is going from bad to worse very quickly.
    The largest (peachick #3) died in the night. The smallets (peachick #1 is very weak). Peachick #2, mid size, is looking not as bad as #1 but not happy either.
    This morning, the ollowing products, I was able to find between 2 feed stores:
    Dewormer: piperazine, brand name Wazine 17.
    Tetrox HCA 280 (brand) tetracycline antibiotic.
    Electrolytle replacer

    I have given the electrolytle solution mixed with the piperazine. I had to force the smallest and push the mid size to drink.
    I also soft scrambled chicken eggs in addition to the feed mix I described above. Forced some into the smallest, the mid size nibbled voluntarily.
    I will look up which specific med is in the goat dewormer. I have a small amount of ivermectin here so if it's that, I'm in luck.

    I am following as close to quarantine measures as possible.
    I have a chicken chick clutch that hopefully will begin hatching tomorrow into thursday. So once I attended to the peas, I showered, fully changed clothes and shoes and I'm headed in to the "silkie house" to do basic upkeep and comfie measures for my wonderful Mima (hen) who is doing a great job on her eggs (plus adopted eggs from 2 other hens).
    I will not handle the peas until after the chckens, same measures.

    I greatly appreciate the help here.
    I will keep updating as I have info and will do my utmost to helkp the birds in this very stressful life threatening situation.
    I wish I could've started my peafowl experience differently. But here we are and I will do my best.
    Thanks..
     
  8. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    I'm so sorry about your rocky start with peas. [​IMG]

    I hope one of our health experts will step in here (@casportpony ?)
    In the meantime, it's important for the sick babies to be warm, is their carrier inside?

    Also, in addition to changing clothes, are you wearing and changing gloves?
     
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  9. EyeKeyYou

    EyeKeyYou Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I would follow KsKingBee advice. Wazine won't do anything for peafowl. Safeguard, Valbazen would work better. Also check organs on dead ones to see if spotted that way you can rule out blackhead and look for other problems.
    Good luck putting a stop to it.
     
  10. yeye5

    yeye5 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Final Very Sad News:

    In under 48 hours that the 3 birds were here with me they all died, the last of which died between 3 a.m. and now (6 a.m.).
    Sadly the illness, whatever it was, must have been so far advanced by the time I got my hands on them that there was nothing I could do to help.
    Instead of the happy new bird purchase/adoption I was so excited about just a month ago I was catapulted into a desperate rescue attempt which was unsuccessful.
    There is much to learn from this experience and I will continue to learn about the meds and strategies, illnesses and conditions, you kind people have posted so that the birds won't have died completely in vain.

    I will probably try again in the future beginning with healthy peafowl and pre-armed with the meds and info that are mentioned here for "just in case" emergencies. I have done rescue/rehab--Never with birds of course--but with many species I know that by the time they show overt presentation of illness, the illness is advanced.
    I wish I could have done more for them.
    I couldn't Not try to help though so it still seems like the right thing to do with a crummy ending.

    Again, thank you each for the support and information. You all came through for me and did it quickly and kindly which means a lot to me.
     

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