Percheron X pony mare

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  1. Lothiriel

    Lothiriel Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

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    We've been looking around for a small draft horse/pony/mule/donkey. We looked at a "Haflinger" gelding a couple weeks ago, but the owner couldn't keep his stories straight and consistent, and the horse had been running wild for 2 years and had no manners and no training. After about a week of looking around on Craigslist and newspapers and bulletin boards, we found a prospective buy. So my sister, dad and I went to look at it yesterday. I'll try and make this post brief and concise.

    She's just across the border in PA on a farm with beefers and 3 other ponies The mare is an 8 year old Percheron/pony cross named Taffy, mostly white - excusing the dirt - but with a light dappling of grey. She weighs 950 and is approximately 13.1 hands.

    When we got there, the owner took us into the barn where the stalls were. She said to go right ahead and take her out. So I slid my hand along Taffy's back as I went into the stall, unhooked her and told her "Back Up" and she did. We brushed her, led her up and down, turned her in a circle. She had very nice manners: no nippy/lippy behavior, knew her place and respected humans. We checked her teeth for parrot/monkey mouth, abcesses; lifted all 4 feet with no trouble, (they were really clean and healthy looking; no cracks; and for not being trimmed since August are in reallynice shape); ran our hands from nose to tail, down legs and neck feeling for lumps - nothing. She has had rabies, tetanus, 4-Way and Coggins tested. No shoes. No limping either.

    After a while I asked the owner to harness her up and drive her so we could watch. Wanted to make sure they weren't trying to fool us. Not that I suspected it; Taffy's owner used to ride saddle-horses and drove 3 teams up until last year. Taffy is the last one to be sold. She drives single or double, has been worked/hitched with all Amish farm equipment, pulled both a sled and wagon. She was bought directly off an Amish farm in Ohio. They have owned her 1 1/2 years.

    We watched them harness her and they knew what they were doing as much as the horse.

    The owner had said the horse knew her commands, so I asked her to demonstrate today while we were watching. She walked her up and down the road in front of their house at least 3 times, doing all the commands: Gee, Haw, Whoa, Stand, Step Up, Back Up, Lift. And the horse did them.

    Over the phone the lady mentioned how Taffy was traffic-safe. Well, while she was walking her on the road, 3 cars drove past and a logging truck roared by (not even bothering to slow down. I mean, how rude! Not to mention potentially dangerous!) But Taffy was very well-behaved. She didn't even blink an eye at the 3 cars that went by. The logging truck: she did swing round real fast to see what it was but didn't buck/spook/bolt.

    Taffy is selling for $600, price including her halter and fitted collar. We talked to a farmer friend who said that if we are serious, try talking them down to $500, or at least $550. Another friend told us that for an already trained, Amish broke pony, $600 is an awesome bargain.

    So....what do ya'll think?


    We made a list of requirements to look for in a horse that will fit our needs and Taffy fills nearly all of them:

    *Plow garden

    *Pull loads

    *Drive cart/sled - The owner said she could easily pull about 1000#, she's pulled about 10 people around on a wagon

    *Ride - Taffy has been broke to ride but her current owners didn't pursue it as they were interested only in driving her

    *Good with cows/dogs

    *Easy Keeper - Taffy eats approximately 1/2 a bale of hay a day and gets 2 quarts of grain in the summer on days when she's worked

    *Good disposition - Taffy is very gentle, calm and quiet. She happens to be low-man-on-the-totem-pole where she is now.

    *Sound feet

    *Already trained

    *15 hands or less

    *Good conformation

    Here are some pictures.

    Taffy in harness:
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    Sideview:
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    My sister standing next to Taffy:
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    Backview:
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    Back feet:
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    This got longer than I expected! What happened to being brief? [​IMG]

    I did post this over on BYH, but thought there may be some of you here who aren't there and might want to give your opinion.
     
  2. cafarmgirl

    cafarmgirl Overrun With Chickens

    Personally I'd say that for a well broke, well trained pony that does what you want and apparently has good stable/ground manners, is healthy and sound and passes a vet exam.... I wouldn't insult the owner by trying to knock her down $50 or $100 bucks.

    Now if some issue arises, if the vet has any minor concerns etc. or if there was some other issue that maybe is something you can live with but that makes her less then perfect for you, then yeah, I guess you could try getting her for a little less.

    With all of that said, I also don't know what good horses are going for in your area. But if the general consensus is that this is an honest seller whose background you are familiar with and she is only $50 or $100 bucks to high, by one persons standards anyway, and this is a really nice pony that you really want.... I wouldn't quibble over it.
     
  3. EweSheep

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  4. amenfarm

    amenfarm Chillin' With My Peeps

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    3x, great price for a Amish trained horse/pony. You may even get a good deal on her harness/if they want to sell them.
     
  5. Debbiesflocks

    Debbiesflocks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I often pay asking price when i find exactly what i want. I have others that tell me why don't you try to talk them down a little and i just tell them NO this is what i am looking for and this is more than a fair price. And it sounds like the 600 they are asking is more than fair With all the training she has had. Its hard to find good honest horse people. And it looks like you found some. Good luck and hope to see more pics when you get her home[​IMG]
     
  6. Skyesrocket

    Skyesrocket Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I would take the full asking price with me and ask if they are firm on the price. I don't think they are asking too much for a sane, well broke, healthy horse. If they are firm then pay them. If they come down some then you saved a little.
    Yes, horse prices are way down. Yes you can buy horses all day for $25-$100. But what are you getting for your money? This gal sounds like she is worth every penny. She will be a beauty once she sheds out. Good Find!
     
  7. Peaches Lee

    Peaches Lee Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I would certainly not chew these people down on the price. It already is a bargain. Horse buying is a gamble by every sense of the word and this is a fairly reasonable one with good odds. Good luck and have fun...[​IMG]
     
  8. FlaRocky

    FlaRocky Chillin' With My Peeps

    I would take full asking price plus some extra and see if they will sell you her complete harness, then you don't have to go out and try to find one. I would pay extra for a harness that is already sized to her and causes her no problems, rubs or pain. If she is the last driving pony they have they might sell it to you. Then when you get her home you can start line driving her and getting to know her right away. Also that way if you start with her right away she will know what is expected of her.

    A friend of mine took her working horse home from the ranch he was on and turned him out for a few weeks to (rest). Was used for a cattle gather and sort. Was put on the ranch for a year of experience, to make a good allround horse. After a few weeks off he decided he wanted to be a lawn ornament. Hard to catch and lazy under saddle.

    I'm not saying this mare will do that, but just saying it will set her ground rules on what you are expecting of her. BTW if she was closer I would take her in a heartbeat. She sounds like a great find for what you are looking to do on your place. Love the size of her. I drive my Rocky Mountain Horses and am looking for a small plow for a 750-900 lb. horse to pull. I teach all my guys to line drive in yearling year then hook to a [email protected] around 18 months and start doing very light work with them.

    Keep us posted on you and your mare, have a blast and keep it fun for both of you.

    Maye
     
  9. cafarmgirl

    cafarmgirl Overrun With Chickens

    I would take her in a heartbeat too if she was close to me! I like the look and size of her and my goodness, if it's true those feet haven't been trimmed since August? They look great. And I think too that she's going to be really pretty in her summer coat. Nice little mare! I think seeing if you can buy her harness is a great idea too, save yourself the hassle of fitting her up with a new one. Keep us updated, would love to see pic's when she sheds out.
     
  10. drafthorserider

    drafthorserider Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I think Taffy looks like a very nice pony as well. She is standing easily waiting for commands while in her harness, doesn't look (though of course, these are still pictures) that she fights with the bit or throws her head around and she appears to have a lighter mouth as she isn't wearing a very heavy driving bit (unless of course it is twisted wire in there). We have draft ponys (like Taffy, but a different combination of breeds). Conformationally she looks to have a nice sound foot and a well set on neck. She looks a bit wide behind, but it could be a weird stance when the photo was taken as she doesn't look that wide in the side shots? Her one hind hoof might be trimmed a little more upright than it should be and that may help her to take longer staps and alter her stance a bit. Draft type ponies (and I think all ponies in general) are normally much more hardy (easy keepers) and sound much longer than a lighter/taller horse. My only concern would be that you didn't see her attached to a vehicle to make sure she wasn't flighty in the shafts, but if they didn't have one, they didn't have one :) Being from an Amish farm I would presume that she is fine with all types of machinery, but of course you never know. I think she looks like a good bargain :) Good luck!
     

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