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Discussion in 'Other Pets & Livestock' started by arabianequine, May 18, 2011.

  1. arabianequine

    arabianequine Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 4, 2010
    So now this morning 2 of my does have diarrhea....I gave them a dose of keopectate I got a gallon jug of it from the feed store. I gave them 3-4oz each that is the dose for calf and ponies and what my vet said to use for goats.

    I am stopping all grain. How can I get weight on my togg girl....the other that has diarrhea is a boer doe and a decent weight.

    Should I give probias and worm again? It has been 2 weeks since I did that the first time since I got them. I have to assume they have had nothing prior.

    They don't seem to be eating anything just laying down all day today.
     
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  2. Mzyla

    Mzyla Chillin' With My Peeps

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    How old are they?
    First, lets think what may caused this diarrhea/
    As with everything else - always look for cause.
    This way you can eliminate the source.

    As to the weight, I can only speak up of my experience; what I'm doing and my goatlings are FAT!
    I'm cooking them Cream Farina mixed with Oatmeal (boiled in a milk - not water) and later on, adding fresh bitten chicken eggs.
     
  3. arabianequine

    arabianequine Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 4, 2010
    Quote:Sorry these threads I started might help....I was lazy and did not want to look them up and just started a new thread.

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=499879

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=499230

    I think it is because I upped their sweet grain. I have not bought anything else yet like suggested. I have only had them like 2-3 weeks and may all be pregnant. 2 does came very very skinny. One that is skinny is 3 years old and a boer doe. The other that is really skinny is a toggenburg and about 2 years old.


    Thank you!
     
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  4. arabianequine

    arabianequine Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 4, 2010
    Anyone have any ideas on what to do for my does? They don't seem to be eating today just laying all day so far. Should I give them some sugar water to replace some fluids?
     
  5. shadowpaints

    shadowpaints Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jun 20, 2009
    Rigby, Idaho
    do you leave baking soda available? do they seem bloated?

    i would suggest 10 grams or so of probios 1 time a day for a few days, no grain only hay. sugar water wouldnt be good, but maybe 2-3 gallons of molassas water may help.

    if they get worse or dont get better in a few days i would suggest finding a vet to look at them..
     
  6. Brody's Broodello

    Brody's Broodello Chillin' With My Peeps

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    1st. Coccidiosis is common in sheep & goats. Usually happens 2 weeks after stressed, like in moving to a new location. You need to treat for that.
    2nd. Sweet feed contains ALOT of molasses. Too much will also give them the runs. I would highly recommend giving them Spectum Scourhalt. It is used for pigs.(Red liguid sold at TSC a MUST have with goats & sheep) In a goat you give 6 to 10 ml asap. You will see them turn around with in a hour or two. I would give another dose 8 hours later. That usually get's them going again. NO GRAIN!!!! Hay only. after a few days of normal droppings, you can add grain slowly again. About 1 cup in the morning them again at night, for a few days.
    3rd. To get their stomachs back on track you can give Gatoraid now, much faster & better than sugar water, then add Probiotics after they start to get better.

    Having dealt with this before many times over the years I have the runny goat thing down. You need to get then stopped up fast or you will lose them! Good luck!
     
  7. Brody's Broodello

    Brody's Broodello Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:They don't have Bloat, if they did they would not have the runs, they would be dead already. They have a severe upset stomach, one from the move, coccidiosis overload, as well as to much sweet feed acidosis. Have seen this many times before.
     
  8. arabianequine

    arabianequine Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 4, 2010
    I dont have baking soda out. They have not had selenium or minerals since I have had them. I just recently increased their sweet cob though and I am pretty sure that has done it. They came with stool that was fine till today.

    I just talked to my vet and she is giving me something tonight. I am off to go get it now. I hope it helps.

    Thank you!
     
  9. arabianequine

    arabianequine Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 4, 2010
    I got the medicine from my vet tonight. By the time I got home it was dark and the doe we tried to get out of the house she was in bit at my husband and now he refuses to try again tonight. We will try again tomorrow. He says they probably have had enough drama for one day. We gave them the keopectate x2 today. No more grain.

    That was the boer doe that bit at his arm when he reached in her house to get her. It is all dark in there too.

    The togg also tried jumping up and clawing at me earlier before we left to the vets....I was giving her the last of the keopectate dose and I squirted the last little bit real fast in her mouth and she did that. She also made some awful noise when doing it like crying out or mad?

    I did not know goats could be so aggressive.
     
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  10. glenolam

    glenolam Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What medicine did your vet give you? Is this vet a large animal vet that knows about goats?

    Since you've only had them for 2 weeks I'm willing to bet that the stress of coming to a new home is a big factor in their diarreah.

    You have 3, right? 2 boers and 1 Togg?

    Here's my suggestion - mind you as I mentioned in your other thread everyone has a different way of doing things, mine could be right for me but not for you. You'll need to assess your situation and do what you think will work for them.

    I'd keep them off grain. No grain at all until they've formed solid poops.

    I'd give them the scour halt as Broody's suggested. You'll need a big syring to do so and they won't like you for it, but it really will help.

    If they're being agressive, tie them up or put them in a milking stanchion (if you have one). If you just tie them up be sure they don't choke themselves, though. They're probably scared of you and even more so since you're now shoving meds down their throats.

    If you can get a stool sample and bring it to the vet, that's the best choice. If not, you can take a stab in the dark and treat them with a different dewormer than you've already used. It's possible that if they have worms they have a strain that is resistant to the ivomec. You can give them safeguard (also known as panacure) and dose them at 3x the lable recommendation. That dewormer is actually made for goats so the instructions are right on the label. Just make sure that you give them 3x the suggested amount since most worms are resistant to safeguard now. Once you dose them with safeguard, see if they are better. If not, treat them for coccidia with DiMethox or Sulmet. I use the 12.5% DiMethox and treat at 1cc / 5# for 10 days - this is what my vet recommended after I brougt in some stool samples. You may not need to be that extreme, though, but my girls were showing a high fecal count of coccidia so we needed to be agressive.

    Get them some minerals ASAP. If you can't get the loose minerals, a mineral block will do. NOT a salt block.

    Check the color of their eye lids. Google FAMACHA chart and compare your goat's eye lids to that chart. If they are anemic due to worms, their eye lids will be very pale. I give Red Cell, which can be found in the horse section of most feed stores at a rate of 1cc / 10# for 5 days straight. If their lids are only slightly pink, you can ease up on the dosage.

    Again, this is what I'D do - other's suggestions will vary so you should take in all advise and decide what you think would work.
     

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