Pictures of Jade I was told IB but I think BS am I right?

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  1. maitia17960

    maitia17960 Out Of The Brooder

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    When I bought Jade the man said he was a IB. I know he is not a IB. Do you think he is a BS or a mix.
     
  2. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    Wow! He's like our mystery boy:
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    Jade is definely not BS - they have no barring on the wing at all.
    But he's not 100% IB either...
     
  3. kuntrygirl

    kuntrygirl Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

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    He is HANDSOME !!!!!!!!!! :love
     
  4. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    By the way, Maitia, how is Ice? Wasn't he your pea that we thought had ingested some pesticide?
     
  5. maitia17960

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    ~~Ice recovered and is doing great. I had to rehome him last spring because he was going over next door and getting in trouble. I tried to break him of it but had no luck so I had to pen him up. Ice was always a free range peacock from when he was hatched. He always roosted in the tree at night. The lady we bought him from let her hen hatch and raise the chick free range. My friend has a farm with a lot of space for him to free range and not get into trouble. It broke my heart to give him away but he is able free range there and I get to see him. They love him. I missed having him here that is why I bought Jade. He was always in a pen and I only let him out when I can watch him. He does not mind being penned like Ice did. Jade does look just like your peacock. Jade must be mix with something.
     
  6. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    Glad to hear Ice is healthy and has a good home!
    And also glad to see you back here in the World O' Peas!

    People here have told me that Floppy (our guy in the picture above) has green blood. I'm also suspecting that he is split to BS, because we finally got a BS chick here last summer. I'm new to BS, green, and genetics in general, so I can't give you a good answer as to what your new boy is!

    I recently started a thread that touches on this:https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/855140/what-is-this-some-kind-of-progressive-bs
    You might keep an eye on it in case someone shares some info that relates to your boy, too.
     
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  7. Rosa moschata

    Rosa moschata Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Jade is IB split to the Black Shoulder mutation. Males with one copy of this mutation will show some solid wing feathers as they mature, still retaining the barred pattern as well. Being as there aren't "breeds" of peafowl (just the IB species, the various Greens, and the Spaulding hybrids between the blue and green species), there is no such thing as a "mixed breed" pea. The differences between the various colors and patterns are due to one or more mutations. Breeds show greater differences than that -- for example, the various breeds of chicken differ beyond just color and pattern.

    Being "pure IB" can mean one of two things -- 1) the bird is "pure" IB species, meaning that it has no Green species ancestry, or 2) the bird is "pure" IB wild color and pattern, i.e. not split to any mutations affecting color or pattern. A pea can be a pure IB species but also be split for another color. For example, you can have a "pure" Labrador Retriever that's black in color. Being a "pure" Lab means it is pure for the breed. But it may be split for Chocolate, in which case it wouldn't be pure for the Black color. But a black Lab carrying the Chocolate mutation is still a "pure" Lab.

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  8. maitia17960

    maitia17960 Out Of The Brooder

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    ~~Thank you kuntrygirl. Jade does like to display. He started to display in January and does so every time he is allowed out of the pen. Ice the peacock I had before Jade didn’t start to display till spring. I am not sure how old he is they said he had his first train last year. In the one picture he is preening his train that is why you only see his train feathers.
    Thank you Rosa moschata for telling me that Jade is an IB split to BS mutation. I understand it better now. I was confused because Ice was an IB and looked different then Jade.
     
  9. Rosa moschata

    Rosa moschata Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You're welcome. When people say a pea is IB, it can mean several things. First, it can mean that it is Pavo cristatus, the Indian Blue species. That would differentiate it from the various Green species, or the Spaulding hybrids between them. Second, IB can refer to the color -- meaning "normal" color, as opposed to one of the mutations that changes color, such as Midnight, Bronze, Purple, etc. Third, IB can refer to a pea that is "normal" or "wild-type" and shows no mutations at all -- which would cover the aforementioned color mutations, but also the White or Pied or White-Eyed or Black Shoulder mutations. So, while Jade looks different from Ice, he's still 1) IB species, 2) IB color, but he's 3) split to the BS pattern, which shows a little in males, and accounts for the half-black, half-barred pattern on the wings.

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