Pied Manchurian, Pied Italian and Italian DF pied

[Severne]

Can someone please post a pic and info on the Pied Manchurian, Pied Italian and Italian DF pied Colour? I’d get them by crossing a pied tuxedo with a Italian and crossing that with Wildcolor?

 

[Kale the Quail]

sorry, i don't know much about quail feather patterns and what they're called. @Fenrisulfr knows a lot about that kind of stuff though. so does @muddy75

 

[Severne]

Thanks.

 

[Nabiki]

I had someone call a tuxedo pied, so they might mean tuxedo.

 

[Severne]

Yes, I think it’s the same.

 

[FloorCandy]

As far as I know pied is tuxedo.

 

[Fenrisulfr]

Pie Bald/Panda/Tuxedo are all the same, just in different percentage and can be breed on all color patterns.

As far as I know, it is incomple dominat and the patterns behind are mixing as there would be no pie.

Most whites got the gene, which result in these often seen spots on the head of whites.... e.g. my Anthony:

He is a ca. 3/97% Tibetan Pie

Here an example of an Italian Pie

Or a Silver Pie ...

... which we call Tuxedo as it is nearly 50/50%

It is unpredictable and demanding to breed.

I try to get some more examples.

 

[Fenrisulfr]

On this thread I posted a good example of the unpredictablity of Pie...

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/colors-genetics.1380615/post-22688514


Edit: this thread also shows how Tibetan Tux breeds with Italian. Sorry, but the topics just crossed over

 

[Fenrisulfr]

P.S.: just read an article of an austrian breeder, who stated that the Pie Bald is shared in four different gene pairs, which would explain the unpredictablity

A real wide topic

 

[Severne]

Thank you.