Please help with possible cocci!

Discussion in 'Raising Baby Chicks' started by cici_p, May 7, 2009.

  1. cici_p

    cici_p Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The last couple of days I've noticed some chick poo that looks, well, a little off. The color of baby poo. . .Today came home to find my brooder covered in bloody chick poo--way more than just a blood vessel or straining issue. Everybody is still acting fine and healthy, but I think this must be cocci? Right?
    Ugh.
    I just have no idea what to do. I just moved these two chicks in with my two ducklings after I sold off their siblings (they were lonely and very happy to have the chicks in with them). I also added my two newly hatched goslings just yesterday. . .and I have three more goslings hatching out. And another full brooder of chicks, also with two ducks and a goose. . .

    Can ducklings and goslings get cocci? Should I medicate everyone, or just the brooder I have seen symptoms in? (I just moved these chicks two days ago, and saw some of the darker poop before moving them, so don't think it is really isolated).

    How should I medicate? Past posts say corrid? How will this affect ducks and geese?
    What should I do?
    Ugh.
    We have a sick horse as work today, and now this, so I am just over the top.
     
  2. MoodyChicken

    MoodyChicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Are you feeding medicated feed, have they been on soil? Any odd treats? Ducks should not be treated with certain coccidiostats, it can kill them. Try whey powder mixed at 10% of their feed first and offer plenty of water with electrolytes. Clean the waterer regularly. Offer dark fresh greens (chick weed is GREAT) and be sure to offer grit if you give greens. Yogurt, slippery elm powder, grated apples, and apple cider vinegar will help also.
     
  3. chilling in muscadine

    chilling in muscadine { I love being disfunctual }

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    Have your young ones been in contact with the ground? Is the poo a bright red bloody color? Chickens poo will change color so I'm trying to figure out if they have had acces to the ground or not. Can you post a pic of the poo so we can try and tell if that is whats going on or not? I know for chicks you can give them powerded milk but I do not know about ducks. You want to make sure before you do any treatments because the meds are harsh on little ones.

    I have had the cocci scared before and it turned out not to be. Get those pics if you can.

    Sara
     
  4. cici_p

    cici_p Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oh, I didn't even think about taking a picture of the poo. Duh. I will get a pic when I find some more. These particular chicks have not been on the soil. (Although my older chicks and ducks have been outside a few times) They are in a brooder with a towel. They are two weeks old today. They are on unmedicated starter due to the ducks. . .They also have been getting what the ducks get to eat, which once a day I give them a ground up mix of oatmeal, greens (spinach, parsley, mustard greens, kale) and nutritional yeast. They also got a mix of electrolytes today due to the new baby geese. I can't think of anything that would turn their poo red. One of the chicks does have blood on his toosh, but I don't see any injury to cause it (I did have one chick a few weeks ago give me a scare with a little blood, but his was obviously from a small tear, which I could see), so that is just evidence of who had the problem. Like I said, they are all acting perfectly healthy!
    I don't know what to do because these are the only two brooders or heat lamps I have. I don't know where it is safe to put the new baby geese (the last one to hatch will stay in the brooder for the night, but then will have to go somewhere!) My ducklings and goslings are so young I am worried that they will be succeptable, even if they usually aren't.
    ugh.
     
  5. NotTheMomma

    NotTheMomma Chillin' With My Peeps

    Post this in the thread for emergencies, illnesses, etc., and I'm sure you'll get the answers!!

    Saying prayers for YOU and the flock!!
     
  6. cici_p

    cici_p Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Oh, thank you that is very nice!
    I didn't think I should post in the emergencies section since it isn't really an emergency. . .don't know how to move it now?
     
  7. NotTheMomma

    NotTheMomma Chillin' With My Peeps

    I'm not sure if a moderator is on right now to move it or not. You can just copy what you posted here, and paste it in a new post there. I'm sure that will be OK.

    Hugs!
     
  8. Judy

    Judy Moderator Staff Member

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    You can feed ducks medicated starter. The med is amprolium, which is not an antibiotic. In the past, the med in chick starter could not be fed to ducks, but that is no longer true. Amprolium inhibits cocci growth. I have no idea whether amprolium is safe for geese. But I do know that cocci can kill a chick quickly.

    If I were in your situation, first thing I would do is add probiotics, live culture yogurt, and organic ACV in the water, probably about 2
    Tbsp/gal to start. They need the good bacteria to help control the cocci. Yes, I am assuming that at least part of the problem is cocci, but since some were on the ground and you are feeding unmedicated feed, that is really not a stretch.

    Here is a site that might help with how poo should or should not look:

    http://www.chat.allotment.org.uk/index.php?topic=17568.0

    Hope it all works out OK for you!
     
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  9. cici_p

    cici_p Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What is ACV please??
    And you are saying I should use medicated starter instead of antibiotics? Or both?
     
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  10. MoodyChicken

    MoodyChicken Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:apple cider vinegar. [​IMG]
     

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