Poor Whitey

Discussion in 'Predators and Pests' started by chicknmania, May 22, 2007.

  1. chicknmania

    chicknmania Overrun With Chickens

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    My absolute fav ten year old roo, Whitey, died today trying to protect his flock. We believe it is the same predator I wrote about yesterday, (daytime predator) because the scenario was the same; it came in the barn at around 9:00 in the morning; my son left the radio playing loudly in an effort to discourage it, and our immediate next door neighbors were outside working in the yard. They saw nothing. It also killed the hen Whitey was trying to protect. Whitey was a big rooster; probably 7 or 8 pounds; and very strong. I don't think a weasel could kill him, but don't know about a mink. What in the world could be that bold? Now we're thinking maybe a sick raccoon, because unless they're sick you just never see them out during the day. It did not eat Whitey, and very little of the hen. Whitey was the smartest, cleverest, kindest, and bravest rooster I have ever known. Our hearts are broken. He left behind one son (Jack Frost) who looks and acts just like him. I don't know what I'll do if something happens to JF. Please help us figure this out. Anyone else, ideas? A hawk is not a bad thought, either; that might make sense.....Thank you, everyone who has responded so far. Please pray for my Whitey dude, and the hen he died for while trying to protect. We have spent all winter trying to get our flock well after their fight with two serious illnesses, and now that they are well, we have this.....Is there anything to use to get rid of the scent of blood? We're thinking that might be attracting more predators than we usually have had to deal with, even though we can't see any blood, obviously it's there. We're going to try hiding in the barn tomorrow with a load of cherry bombs or something; will see what happens.
     
  2. Critter Crazy

    Critter Crazy Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 19, 2007
    Binghamton, NY
    I had a problem a while ago, where I was losing birds during the day. I was confused trying to figure out what was brave enough, to come around in the daylight, with two large dogs, chained on the property. Come to find out, my neighbors dog was getting loose! She got 7 birds before we figured it out, and thankfully she is now living with my neigbors in-laws. and we havent lost any birds since.

    Is there any chance your predator could be a Dog?
     
  3. chickflick

    chickflick Overrun With Chickens

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    A dog wouldn't just eat the innerds, would it? My neigbors dog got one of my chickens, and she was pulling the feathers out..... didn't eat the head off or anything like that.
    I'm so sorry for your loss. Yes, we do get very attached to our girls and boys! They are so awesome.... just a different kind of pet, but still close to our hearts.
    Hope you find out what is killing your birds...and please, return the favor!
     
  4. Critter Crazy

    Critter Crazy Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 19, 2007
    Binghamton, NY
    Quote:Actually that is exactly what this dog did! She ripped the birds apart! The innards were ripped out, feathers all over the place. There were also a few without heads.

    Personally i think it depends on the dog, i lost a bird to my own dog, back in the very beginning, but it seemed more like playing gone bad, the bird was dead, but no feathers lost, no wounds nothing.
     
  5. chickbea

    chickbea Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 18, 2007
    Vermont
    I'm so sorry.
    Valiant Whitey! He'll have an honored spot in chicken heaven.
    It sounds like a dog to me. They are the most likely to not really eat what they kill.
     
  6. chicknmania

    chicknmania Overrun With Chickens

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    It might be a dog, but I think my neighbors would've seen something... or failing that, our dogs probably would have. Typically dogs don't rip up the carcass; that was unusual what that dog did, I think. And what was weird yesterday is that the carcass wasn't ripped up; the hen it killed yesterday was dressed out as neatly as you or I would do it; except with feathers still on. We could've eaten the rest, if we'd wanted to; I mean it was that clean and intact. My neighbor said they had a big raccoon in their garage last night; but we have hundreds of those as we live in the woods. This is ruining my day as I just can't think about anything else and I have a ton of work to do...help!!!
     
  7. silkhope

    silkhope Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I haven't a clue as to the predator but just wanted to say I'm very sorry for your loss. It's devastating. [​IMG]
     
  8. Poison Ivy

    Poison Ivy Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 2, 2007
    Naples, Florida
    Have you tried to bait a trap? We leave 2 set at all times. Plus we have a tub of bait blocks and the raccoons got into it and must have ate 4 or 5 of them. I guess that will take care of them too. Might take a couple days. Once they kill a chicken they keep coming back to the same place. So get you a trap & keep it baited at all times.
     
  9. SandraChick

    SandraChick Chillin' With My Peeps

    Now we're thinking maybe a sick raccoon, because unless they're sick you just never see them out during the day

    well, many a chicken keepers can tell you that's not true. Being hungry for whatever reason and knowing there's an easy meal is enough for them to come out during the day. Granted, they TYPICALLY come out at night, it's not a fast rule.

    On the other hand, coons don't usually just eat the innerds...I'll go check the earlier post you refered to and see what clues I can glean from that.

    In the meantime....get those chickens fenced in (not chicken wire...keeps chickens in, but not predators out)...or if you have your property already fence, put an electric fence around it. Actually, if it were me and I knew the predator showed up around 9...I'd be in the barn hiding with a gun ready for it to come for its next meal and...well you know the rest.

    Sandra​
     
  10. chicknmania

    chicknmania Overrun With Chickens

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    I know raccoons will come back. We caught a raccoon in the barn the other night; we'd left the doors open later than usual and surprised him in there. My son had some fireworks handy and heaved them at him ; they did scare the bejusus out of him and he left; we hadn't seen any signs that he'd been back, but that doesn't mean anything; or could've been another one. I'm not sure yet what we'll do about tomorrow; I have a meeting I can't miss and my son has school; maybe I can get my DH to sit out there, but not sure....our chooks are free range and most are hard to catch; closing the barn doesn't seem to be helping a whole lot, either...most of our guys roost high and the ones that don't, we've been locking them in pens, cages, or whatever to keep them secure from the varmints at night...this has been working, and I'm sure it's frustrated the coons and whatever else we've had...so they might be coming in during the day. We'll see...if nothing else we might tie the dogs out there temporarily. they get along with our birds ok.
     

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