I have been using German Pointers for quite a while as poultry guardians and they do it well. Lately they have been busting their tails at night going after predators more interested in persimmons than chickens which keeps dogs busy all night. Both dogs have a penchant for killing and eating snakes where most are caught after dark. Last night after midnight Lucy (female) got a copperhead and got bit with venom transfer in the process. She has a swollen head, drools and is lethargic so she feels like crap. Now for part of the real expense of keeping dogs for guarding stock; the vet bill. We used to have coon hounds get popped once in a while and never lost any but down time is long sometimes longer than a week. I will open wallet to shorten that down time so we can get Lucy back out there. Hopefully the interest in snakes will also decline. Killing snakes does not benefit poultry keeping here.