Problem making decision

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by seminolewind, Aug 28, 2014.

  1. seminolewind

    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

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    I have a rooster who has wasted down to nothing (Marek's). He got a bumblefoot and I opened up the scab and could not find anything. I put a small slit in the top between his toes because it was so swollen that I thought maybe there's a kernel in there.

    He's still limping. I can't take the bandage off because he will bleed a lot. He's probably low on clotting factor. Antibiotics don't seem to be working.

    I'm having a problem throwing in the towel because I will feel guilty I didn't do enough. It's a sad situation . I could give him Penicillin injections but he has no fat at all. He's still bright eyed and eats small amounts.

    Where do I go from here?
     
  2. BantamLover21

    BantamLover21 Overrun With Chickens

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    I'm so sorry you're going through this. [​IMG] Marek's is such an awful disease! And I'm sure the bumblefoot isn't helping your poor rooster recover.

    If I were you, I would start Penicillin injections, right into the foot/leg area. I believe the Penicillin dosage is .10 ccs per pound of body weight. Even if he is skin and bones, there should still be enough "meat" left on the foot for the injections to work. He may continue to limp, but at least the Penicillin should help with the infection.

    If removing the bandage causes the foot to bleed, then keep it bandaged for most of the time. Only remove the bandage when giving injections; at that time, I would also gently clean the area and apply antibiotic ointment. Don't give up on him yet.

    Good luck!
     
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  3. Suzie

    Suzie Overrun With Chickens

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    seminolewind..

    My heart goes out to you and your Rooster...

    You have given me so much guidance recently with regard to Ruby...I so wish I could offer you some help and guidance here...only you know what he is like in his demeanor and you are the best person to know what action to take to help him now..if I could have one wish right now it would be to cure him and your flock from this disease,

    You know your flock better than any of us here..you will do whatever is right..if he is still eating and drinking then he deserves to live out his days/weeks in your loving and excellent care...

    Best wishes...thinking of you both!

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  4. JensChickies

    JensChickies Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You know him the best. I know it's a last resort but can you take him to the vet? Maybe find out what to give him to help him clot better. I am so sorry, whatever you decide to do I am sure it's in his best interest.
     
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  5. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    What about using oral antibiotics such as baytril, amoxicillin, clavamox, or even oral penicillin? Sorry you're having to deal with this poor little guy--he's been through a lot lately.
     
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  6. seminolewind

    seminolewind Flock Mistress Premium Member

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    Thanks. I have Baytril, my Amoxicillin came today in a destroyed box and powder all over. I have to put a claim in. I can't find Clavamox without a script anywhere. And I have Penicillin injectable. And LS-50 powder.

    Which is known to be the best for infections related to a wound?
     
  7. BantamLover21

    BantamLover21 Overrun With Chickens

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    I think Penicillin is pretty good for wound-related infections. Baytril would probably work great, too, since it is probably the strongest of the antibiotics you have.
     
  8. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    I don't think anything is stronger than Baytril for an all round antibiotic. It might be overkill, but if you have it I would use it. Penicillin has some resistance, although if that's all I had for animals, I would use it.
     
  9. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    You all know I *love* Baytril, but it does have it's limitations when it come to treating gram positive bacterial infections. Are bumblefoot infections usually gram positive or gram negative? I have no clue.

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  10. Eggcessive

    Eggcessive Chicken Obsessed Premium Member

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    Bumblefoot is usually from staph, which is a gram positive bacteria. When I looked it up, it said that it treats gram positive and gram negative bacteria, including penicillinase producing staph, which is the reason penicillin sometimes doesn't work. As you all know, I don't use much of anything on my chickens since i just do the bumblefoot surgery.
     

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