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Pullet with possible sinus infection? Need advice!

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by sunny & the 5 egg layers, Jul 3, 2011.

  1. sunny & the 5 egg layers

    sunny & the 5 egg layers Overrun With Chickens

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    While I was holding my 17 week old Dark Brahma, I noticed under her left eye is swollen. She is in with 5 other pullets (1 dark brahma, 2 production reds, and 2 BA's) They are all the same age and have been together since day old's. I am not sure if maybe she got pecked? From what I can tell she is 2nd to last on the pecking order. Is their anything I can do for her? Will she be alright?

    Here are some pictures:
    This is the side that is swollen (under her eye)
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    And this is the opposite eye.
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  2. sheila3935

    sheila3935 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Is she sneezing? Could be a sinus infection. I had a silkie mix roo that looked like that. Took him to the vet and they said sinus infection. Put him on Duramycin for 2 weeks. If she is laying dont eat the eggs during treatment and for a week after. I would seperate her from the others in case it is something contagious.
     
  3. nurseshelly

    nurseshelly Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 24, 2011
    Gilbert AZ
    sunny & the 5 egg layers :

    While I was holding my 17 week old Dark Brahma, I noticed under her left eye is swollen. She is in with 5 other pullets (1 dark brahma, 2 production reds, and 2 BA's) They are all the same age and have been together since day old's. I am not sure if maybe she got pecked? From what I can tell she is 2nd to last on the pecking order. Is their anything I can do for her? Will she be alright?

    Here are some pictures:
    This is the side that is swollen (under her eye)
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/84433_102_3274.jpg
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/84433_102_3275.jpg

    And this is the opposite eye.
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/84433_102_3282.jpg

    Their sinuses go under their eyes like that, so she is probably sick. You can do Tylan 50, 0.5ml injectable into her breast muscle. You would want to alternate sides each day so one side has a chance to recover. You just feel their keel bone and go on either side below the crop. I would start with 5 days, but if it continues you can do longer. I have had to do 14 days once for an eye infection.​
     
  4. chickenbottom

    chickenbottom Chillin' With My Peeps

    Dec 30, 2008
    hollister, florida
    my light brahmas face does this often but she likes to eat bees ive pulled stingers out of her nose before. maybe look her over for stingers. but if its not a bee then i would think sinuses.
     
  5. sunny & the 5 egg layers

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    She is not laying yet. And while I was holding her I did notice her sneeze once and I was holding her for proble 15 minutes. She didn't sneeze more then once though. Would she be sneezing more is she does have a sinus infection? And if she was to have gotten pecked by one of my other pullets, would her face swell up like this? How long should she be seperated from the others? And where do you get the medication to treat this? Is there any other symptoms of a sinus infection? Sorry for so many questions.
    Thanks for all your input guys.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention that she has been laying down a lot more then the others lately. We figured this could be a sign of her getting ready to lay and didn't really worry too much about it. Thanks again guys.
     
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  6. nurseshelly

    nurseshelly Chillin' With My Peeps

    Feb 24, 2011
    Gilbert AZ
    sunny & the 5 egg layers :

    She is not laying yet. And while I was holding her I did notice her sneeze once and I was holding her for proble 15 minutes. She didn't sneeze more then once though. Would she be sneezing more is she does have a sinus infection? And if she was to have gotten pecked by one of my other pullets, would her face swell up like this? How long should she be seperated from the others? And where do you get the medication to treat this? Is there any other symptoms of a sinus infection? Sorry for so many questions.
    Thanks for all your input guys.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention that she has been laying down a lot more then the others lately. We figured this could be a sign of her getting ready to lay and didn't really worry too much about it. Thanks again guys.

    It depends on what is causing it, sometimes they have bubbly drainage in their eyes, or in their nose. If you push on the swelling, it should drain out but I can't remember if it comes out of the tear duct, the nostril or both. I did a lot of research on sinus infections when mine had an eye infection before I found out it wasn't sinus related. They can sneeze, hold their mouth open and shake their head to clear mucus, and have the facial swelling. I think they can have the infection without sneezing much, especially when it ends up in the pouch under the eye. I would keep her separated until she has no symptoms of being sick, probably 4 or 5 days on the antibiotic. If it's an infection, the swelling should be mostly gone within 48 hours, maybe even 24 hours. It might start draining more after the antibiotics too, but it's good for it to come out.

    Oh, when we were ruling out a sinus infection in my chicken, the vet had said that if any birds start sneezing, not to treat them unless they have the facial swelling. It is better for them to fight it off themselves. But then mine ended up being something else - still the treatment for the infection was the same, intramuscular antibiotics - just since we went to the vet we used a different antibiotic (but has similar coverage to tylan).

    Some feed stores carry Tylan either the 50 or the 200 (it is either 50 mg/ml, or 200 mg/ml), the 50 is fine, but if all they have is the 200, it's fine too. Feed stores carry it as a livestock antibiotic. Most feed stores will carry syringes and needles too. You would use a puppy needle, the shortest they sell. You don't have to put it in all of the way, just into the muscle. You wouldn't want to put more than 0.5 of a ml into a chicken breast muscle because it would damage the muscle. Even the 0.5ml causes damage, but by alternating sides, each side gets a chance to recover before the next injection.

    I hope she gets better really fast!​
     
  7. sunny & the 5 egg layers

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    I seperated her for the night in a cage that I put in the storage part of my coop. (It is where I keep the feed ect. and is a seperate room from where the rest of the flock is.) Earlier she had her mouth open and looked as if she was panting, once again I didn't think too much of it at the time. I will see how she is tomorrow and if she isn't better I will have to get some sort of medication. Is there any other type of medicine that I can give her other than Tylan? Maybe something she can take orally? I am just a little scared to use a needle as I am scared I will mess up and harm her. If there isn't any other medication that will work, I will give her the Tylan. Also, I was reading a little about sinus infections and someone said to use polyvistol without iron? Do you think this would work? Also, if tomorrow, the swealing is gone or isn't as bad as today, should I still get her medication?
    Thank you.
     
  8. sunny & the 5 egg layers

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    She is still swollen today, here are some pictures...
    The swollen side...
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    The opposite side...
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    We made a little thing in the yard for her to run around (away from the other chickens). She really seems to miss her friends. Is it possible that maybe she could have got bit by a mosquito? Would her face swell up this much? And if it is a sinus infection, would both sides of her face be swelled? Or only one? Also, I noticed her feet are really hot this morning. What would this be from? And she had her mouth open this morning and looked as if she was panting. It is in the 80's right now so she could have been hot.

    Thanks again.
     
  9. zookeeper15133

    zookeeper15133 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    You can get the Duramyacin someone else mentioned at the feed store. It goes in her water.
     
  10. sunny & the 5 egg layers

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    UPDATE:
    I noticed while she was outside this evening that her poop was completely watery. It wasn't runny like cecal poop. It was all watery. Previously today she pooped solid and it had a greenish tint to it. Her face is still really swollen and I am not sure if I should get her polyvistol without iron, or Duramycin. Also, if I did give her Polyvistol, what would the dosage be?
    It was really hot out today and she was panting like crazy. At one point I felt so bad for her that I carried her in my basement to cool her off a bit. It seemed to help a bit with the panting. She really misses her friends though. Is there anything I can do for her that will make her miss her friends less?

    Thanks again.
     

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