Purebred Chickens, Pedigree and record keeping.

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by PrairieChickenLady, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. PrairieChickenLady

    PrairieChickenLady Out Of The Brooder

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    I'm a complete novice, currently chickenless but obsessed with learning everything about them.

    When it comes to raising purebred flocks how are the bloodlines recorded? I haven't found alot of information on this and am curious about how it works. Is it similar to other types of livestock (cattle or horses) where the individual parents and resulting offspring are registered with their breed registry as individuals or is it done some other way? Just wondering how it works for chickens.
     
  2. stephanie1992

    stephanie1992 Chillin' With My Peeps

    i would like to know that to. i know a few breeders but all they do is breed there top show birds. they dont really keep record
     
  3. austincoopersilkiesies

    austincoopersilkiesies Chillin' With My Peeps

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    i would use excel and make a spread sheet for each coop.
     
  4. Fleabuskitty

    Fleabuskitty Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Bloodlines aren't officially recorded, though. It's all up to the breeder to keep records/pedigrees on their birds, so to answer your question no, it is not like other livestock like cattle.
    I don't raise any purebred chickens (yet), but I have recently started keeping records on my mixed breed flock to avoid inbreeding and in case I forget anything. I am also raising Coturnix quail and will keep records on them. I have made a spreadsheet for chickens and one for quail where I have their names, hatch dates, parents, color, breed/cross, leg band if they have one, coop/pen, and anything else I decide to add. Keeping records/pedigrees for birds is entirely up to the breeder. I'm not sure if most breeders do, but I'm planning on keeping records of all of my birds for as long as I raise chickens and quail.
     
  5. Ariel301

    Ariel301 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Chickens are not pedigreed and registered like dogs/cats/horses/cattle/goats/sheep etc. Some breeders keep detailed records of the lineage of each bird, others don't. Many breeders keep a pen with a rooster and a few hens and hatch what they lay, so they don't even necessarily know which hen was the mother of which chick if the eggs all look roughly the same. You could only really keep that kind of record if you had your birds caged in pairs and made yourself a lot of paperwork. Not really necessary, I think.
     
  6. cashdl

    cashdl Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I have an excell program that has each pen listed, then each hen below the pen, then a box below each hen for each day of the month so I can note who laid eggs and which color came from which hen. When I pull the eggs from the hen I mark the pen they came out of and the hen if I know which one laid it. Eventually I will get to where I have seperate hatchers for each pen, but right now it is just for tracking hatch rates and fertility from each pen.

    Lanae
     
  7. CrazyHenLady386

    CrazyHenLady386 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    There is a bit of "registering paperwork" for exhibitions and such. I do keep track of who is who by typing my own "papers" on which I have a slot for their sire so nobody mates their own father. I put a few hens in with my rooster to breed. And as long as I keep switching up the rooster ( selling mine and buying a new one) I will never have an inbreeding problem. I really like the idea of "official purebred poultry papers" so we could be all "professional"

    Here is my cockerel "Trivee Yankee Doodle"
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    I really love making show names for chickens. Here are some you all can use if you feel like it!
    Small Town Girl
    JustGoogleIt
    MrJazz
    ShezaPrettyLady
    OneHotNumber
    ByMeARing
    Priss Miss

    More to come! Post below your favourite show names. Either mine or yours!
     
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  8. CrazyHenLady386

    CrazyHenLady386 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sorry that last one is supposed to be "Buy Me A Ring"

    SweeterThanSugar
    My Obsession
    LighterThanAir
    Luster Buster
    Rock Me Momma
    EyeCandy
     
  9. 3riverschick

    3riverschick Poultry Lit Chaser

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    This can be as complicated or easy as you need in your breeding program, or as you want to make it for your own satisfaction. There is no central breed registry like the AKC Stud Book. Nor do separate breed clubs have such registries. Some National Breed Clubs in poultry sell leg rings which are numbered( or you can buy them on eBay or somewhere) to ID each bird. Some people use colored leg bands to denote which flock or family the birds descend from. A lot of creativity out there in poultry breeders.
    First choose your basic breeding system depending on your needs in the flock and how closely they are related. Inbreeding is not as much a problem in poultry as in mammals. Poultry have a much wider genetic base and many more sex-linked genes than mammals. In fact to start your flock you will want to buy your foundation as started birds. Which have been culled at least once by the breeder. Or retired show or breeder birds which have a generation or two of breeding left in them. .
    Now, how to choose a strain, once you have chosen the breed? Poultry plumage patterns can take a long time and much wise culling to stabilize. Penciled, barred, mille fleur, speckled and other patterns can take decades to stabilize into regularly occurring proper patterns over multiple generations. Plus the breeder should have built the house first before painting it so the birds should be vigorous and capable of their historic work, be it eggs, meat or both.
    What you are looking for is a veteran line-bred strain. One which wins in quality competition over multiple generations. ( lot of birds competing). Where the color pattern is properly and reliably inherited over the generations. Look at the Amer. Poultry Assn. website for Hall of Fame Breeders and Master and Grand Master Breeders. Also check the show listings to see who is winning at the years big shows like Columbus, Oh and Northeast Poultry Congress in MA . Check at the National Breed Club website to see who they consider their most honored breeders.
    Tell your breeder of choice you want birds to found a flock on their strain. That you need birds which can be bred to each other. In poultry we inbreed to set traits, then line breed as needed to stabilize virtue.
    The bird you get may already be past the inbreeding thang and just ready to line breed. A word of caution here, do not, repeat, do not cross strains to found your flock. It is a novice mistake and can set you back years or even a decade as you struggle to restabilize the gene pool. All those sex-linked genes and wider genetic base we discussed earlier.
    Obtain quality representatives of a vintage line-bred strain and line breed them. Listen to the strain's breeder and have them help you with the 1st 2 generations breedings until you figure out how the strain inherits and throws virtue. Read up on your chosen breed so you can discuss them correctly with the breeder. Read the classic books by a breeder of that breed.
    The breeder of your foundation birds can help you with establishing the correct breeding plan for your birds. Take look at the breeder's record keeping. If it worked for him/her and brought his/her birds to this level of excellence it might be a good model for you too.
    Best Regards,
    Karen in western PA, USA
     
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  10. GrammyJ

    GrammyJ Just Hatched

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    I have a friend that does have a Spanish Baroque pedigree rooster that is registered and has papers. Beautiful rooster too. All of her chickens also have health certificates. So it is possible but is rare.
     

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