put 4 week olds out in grow up pen and now/

Discussion in 'Meat Birds ETC' started by pinkwindsong, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. pinkwindsong

    pinkwindsong Songster

    Mar 18, 2011
    Laurens SC
    hi help needed,,
    I put our 19, 4 week old broilers out in a grow up pen. dirt floor covered top ( tin) sides wire. and Now They are all sick.. what the Heck? I havent had any adult layers sick. I haven't had any adult layers in the grow up pen at all in fact they were locked out of it completely.

    symptoms are trouble breathing, swollen heads and faces, sneezing. what the heck is this?

    I had not wormed them was going to do that this weekend their 4 q1/2 week mark. but went ahead and put wormer in their water for them but that wouldnt make their faces swell and them have a hard time breathing.. I did find a ant nest in the pen but it seamed to be dormat no other bugs or other insects were found....

    I went ahead and bleached their water'ers and their feed dishes. and have separated the sickest of them..

    any idea still waiting on the 4- h lady to call me.. too

    Last edited: Sep 28, 2011

  2. Cloverleaf Farm

    Cloverleaf Farm Bearded Birds are Best

    Sep 16, 2008
    Levan, UT
  3. pinkwindsong

    pinkwindsong Songster

    Mar 18, 2011
    Laurens SC
    ok here is more info on that.. scary it says the meat is still ok for human consumption but I dont know.. so the is the herpies virus in birds. so they came infected and it took the stress of moving them to the grow out pen and the dust to activate it??? thats what i sounds like.. I am defenitly calling the 4-h people back tomorrow and Im wondering if I shouldnt give them all back to her... [​IMG] I do NOT want [​IMG] anything to affect my layers. they are the important ones here. what do you think?

    Infectious Laryngotracheitis Virus (ILT)
    Donna K. Carver, DVM, PhD, ACPV

    What is ILT?
    Infectious Laryngotracheitis virus is a herpes virus that causes respiratory disease in
    chickens. ILT is a reportable disease in North Carolina and some other states. Flocks
    suspected of having ILT must be reported to the North Carolina Department of
    Agriculture and Consumer Services’ (NCDA&CS) Veterinary Division.

    Where does ILT come from?
    Though ILT can be found in chickens throughout the world, it does not survive for
    extended periods outside the bird in the environment. ILT is susceptible to sunlight and
    most commonly-used disinfectants. Once infected, chickens become life-long carriers of
    ILT and can shed the virus during times of stress. Chickens are considered to be the
    source of infection for other chickens. Virus can be transmitted over short periods of
    time on equipment, boots and coveralls.

    What clinical signs are present in ILT-infected birds?
    Birds infected with ILT initially exhibit signs similar to other respiratory diseases,
    including: wet irritated eyes (Fig.1), sneezing, nasal discharge, failure to thrive,
    decreased growth, and decreased egg production. As ILT progresses the clinical signs
    may become much worse including: difficulty breathing, bloody discharge from the nose
    and mouth, gasping (Fig.2), coughing, and expectoration of bloody mucus. Birds will
    shake their heads to clear the mucus from their nose and mouth, which results in blood
    stained mucus on the feathers of many birds in the flock.
    Figure 1. Wet irritated eyes Figure 2. Open-mouth breathing or gasping

    How long does ILT last?
    The course of the disease varies with the severity of the lesions, but most birds recover
    in 10-14 days.
    Will my birds die from ILT?
    Again, the severity of the lesions is related to the mortality seen in flocks with ILT. Mild
    forms of the disease result in very low morality (0.1-2%). Severe forms of the disease
    result in variable mortality (5-70%) with average being 10-20%.

    How is ILT diagnosed?
    In ILT infections, clinical signs alone should make you highly suspicious that you are
    dealing with ILT. Even so, as with any disease, you should submit birds to the
    diagnostic laboratory in your area for confirmation of the diagnosis. A post-mortem
    examination of affected birds will generally reveal blood in the bird’s airway. The
    trachea or windpipe is often very bloody and may be partially clogged with mucus and
    blood (Fig. 3). Swabs of the trachea will be used to attempt to grow the virus. Other
    diagnostic tests may be performed to confirm that your flock has ILT.

    Figure 3. Trachea filled with blood and mucus What happens if my flock has ILT?
    If you live in North Carolina, where ILT is a reportable disease, your farm will be
    quarantined by the NCDA&CS. A quarantine means that you must have a permit to
    move birds onto or off your farm until the quarantine is lifted. Your birds will be sent to
    market as quickly as possible with travel to market via routes determined by the
    Department of Agriculture. Lifting of the quarantine is accomplished when your farm
    tests negative for ILT two times in a row with the tests being performed thirty days apart.
    Before the first of these tests, your farm must be cleaned and disinfected

    Can people get ILT?
    No, human health is not affected by ILT.

    Is it safe to eat meat and eggs from birds with ILT?
    Yes, because humans are not affected by ILT, and because the virus is destroyed by
    cooking, it is safe to eat poultry products from infected birds.

    How can I prevent ILT from infecting my flock?
    Preventing the introduction of ILT and other viruses onto your farm should be the goal of
    all producers. Preventing the introduction of ILT into your flock is not difficult to do if you
    follow some “common sense” guidelines.
    • Avoid moving any birds onto or off your farm during an ILT outbreak.
    • Do not visit other poultry producers during an ILT outbreak.
    Dr. Bob Hillman, Executive Director of the Texas Animal Health Commission
    recommends simple biosecurity measures that can be taken to help protect flocks:

    1. “Keep a spare pair.” Buy a pair of inexpensive rubber boots, and wear them only
    on your own premises, to avoid ‘tracking in’ disease.

    2. “Give germs the brush off!” Use a long-handled brush to scrape off manure, mud
    or debris from tires, equipment or boots, then disinfect.

    3. “Disinfection prevents infection!” Mix a solution of three parts bleach to two parts
    water, and use it liberally to clean rubber boots and equipment brought onto your farm.
    If visitors don’t want their vehicle tires sprayed with disinfectant, ask them to park
    outside your gate.

    4. “Make visitors take cover.” Don’t be shy about asking visitors to disinfect their
    footwear -- or better yet, provide guests with disposable shoe covers, or footwear worn
    only on your place.
    If you live in North Carolina and think your flock has ILT, call NCDA&CS at (919) 733-7601

    I tell ya'll one thing the bleach water/ bottle was my friend today sprayed everything and will continue to do so... OMG this is not what I needed. ughhhhh [​IMG]
  4. Cloverleaf Farm

    Cloverleaf Farm Bearded Birds are Best

    Sep 16, 2008
    Levan, UT
    If that's what you think it is, call her asap and cull all the birds immediately. The more they are moved around, the more chance that they will infect someone else's birds. [​IMG] Sorry.

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