questions about black copper marans

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by AK_Button_Mama, Mar 5, 2009.

  1. AK_Button_Mama

    AK_Button_Mama Chillin' With My Peeps

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    OK I am a little bit confussed about some things... I would really like to make sure I am informed regarding something before I make a decision.

    I see allot of people on here say they have blue copper marans that are breeding true to the standards... yet here: http://www.maransofamericaclub.com/blues_76.html
    they state that even the french dont have a standard as of yet....My questions stands as this how can a bird who does not even have a standard in writing have a standard it is meeting?

    prolly not making any friends with this question but I really want to be informed!
     
  2. Krys109uk

    Krys109uk Chillin' With My Peeps

    They probably mean bred to French Standards for type, as opposed to the English Standard.
    I expect the colour will be much the same as the copper black but with blue replacing the black. Whether they state a depth of blue or require lacing, I suppose, will remain to be seen.
     
  3. amazondoc

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    Right. They're talking about the shape, size, and feathering of the bird -- not the color.
     
  4. AK_Button_Mama

    AK_Button_Mama Chillin' With My Peeps

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    well why cant people say that? its entirely to confusiing trying to get started in chickens and have there be so much red tape....

    maybe say these birds are true to the french standard for body type, feathering down legs and etc
    you cant just say hey these birds are true to the standard and expect a person who is new to birds to totally get it... if I didnt do my research I would have gotten burned and got stuck with a bird that I cant do anythign with..

    can you even show a blue copper maran?
     
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  5. amazondoc

    amazondoc Cracked Egghead

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    You can show blue copper Marans in the US. I forget the official name of the classification, but they have a special designation for breeds/colors that are not yet APA recognized.

    Also, it's a good idea to start keeping some of the more rare colors NOW. The Marans Chicken Club USA is working to get APA recognition for Marans in several different varieties. The more people we have who keep and show those rare colors, the easier it will be for us to get them recognized.

    I myself now have wheaten and blue wheaten, with birchen and blue birchen hatching soon. [​IMG]
     
  6. cottagegarden

    cottagegarden Eggistentialist

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    Honestly, I think understanding the Global Economic Crisis is easier than understanding Marans some days. But its just that its all new. The Marans folks on here are patient and generous with their knowledge. I am really grateful for the sharing. It will all make more sense when the breed
    gets APA recognition for the fist of the color Varieties thanks to the hard work of the Marans Chicken Club. Keep learning and then pass along what you know to help the next person. It is at least, an exciting adventure full of challenge.
     
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  7. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

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    could they be shown under AOV?
     
  8. amazondoc

    amazondoc Cracked Egghead

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    AOV is for non-approved colors within an approved breed. I *think* the classification for non-approved breeds is "Miscellaneous", but I really don't remember for sure.
     
  9. klf73

    klf73 Mad Scientist

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    K, still learning the *show stuff*, thanks
     
  10. AK_Button_Mama

    AK_Button_Mama Chillin' With My Peeps

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    same here this is why I am asking the questions!
     

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