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questions on gold, silver, and cream

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by turtleblossom, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. turtleblossom

    turtleblossom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Ok, so what I understand about the gold and silver genes is pretty limited, and I need some info on how to create the color cream (as in cream spangled). I know that a hen can have one gene (or is it copy?) for gold/silver. They are either just silver or just gold. But the rooster has two genes that can be either silver, gold, or one of each.

    hen = s+/- is gold
    S-/- is silver

    roo = s+/s+ is gold
    S/S is silver
    S/s+ is cream

    I have a cream spangled EE roo (sl Seabright hen X partrige EE roo) that I am breeding to two silver laced Wyandotte hens. I know that when I breed them I will get silver, gold, and black hens; and the cockrels will be silver, cream, and black. (of course, breeding EE's always gives you suprises)
    How do I get cream hens?
    I thoght about adding some Cream Brabanters, but I only want to buy hens, and they are pretty rare (despite the fact that you can get them from some major hatcheries). Why waste rare breed hens on a EE project!
     
  2. turtleblossom

    turtleblossom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Know one has any info?
     
  3. jossanne

    jossanne Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I know nothing, but I'm bumping you up. Someone will come along.
     
  4. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Next to het silver S/s+ you get the same effect on pure gold s+/s+ with additional cream (inhibitor of gold) gene ig/ig. This "gene" is recessive and not sexlinked. Gold hens s+/- plus ig/ig are also cream in groundcolor.

    I understand the cream gene ig is pretty rare in the US.
    The dilute gene Di is dominant and has a similar effect.
    It is said to be in a lot of buff breeds, especially in the creamier kinds.

    Then you could work with lavender but that would change the black parts too.
     
  5. turtleblossom

    turtleblossom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    So if I breed my cream spangeled EE to a lavender hen, I might get cream hens?
     
  6. Henk69

    Henk69 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    No. All I want to say is that in a bird with 2 copies of lavender the buff parts will also be diluted to a cream tint.
     

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