I have a real problem thats developed. See the pic from the camera thats in the run. It was taken last night. I have know i had a problem with a couple of rats but i had no idea it had come to this. I have caught a couple of them with a no kill trap but they have wised up to it and its of no use now. It looks like im going to have to build a water kill trap with a barrel / bucket or something. I have now been taking the food out of the run when the girls go into the coop. I feel them from a low wall hanging goat trough and i have see that trough FULL of rats on the camera at night. Its time for drastic measures. So, has anyone tried and succeeded with a trap in the run that is truly effective ? This pic is horrifying to me. And its not all of them. I think there is close to 20 or so. They actually drank one of the hanging waterers dry last night. As a side note, they have been building out here and knocking down wooded lots to build houses. When they started doing that, my rat problem came to be.