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really dark blue or black color question pic heavy

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by AHappychick, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. AHappychick

    AHappychick Wanna-be Farmer

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    cant tell with this SG I thought black but when I was taking pics yesterday she looked mnore of a really dark blue. is there a way to tell like with feather shaft or down or something?

    here are some pics of he with and without flash


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    that is the black pullet standing right behind the sg (well her butt anyway)
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    and here is a black pullet who I know is black taked the same day with the same lighting, but she is much older than the SG in question...

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  2. pips&peeps

    pips&peeps There is no "I" in Ameraucana

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    Looks like she is blue to me.
     
  3. AHappychick

    AHappychick Wanna-be Farmer

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    oh darn I really wanted a black [​IMG] not that she isnt nice cause I think she is but I wanted to breed her to my lav.
     
  4. onthespot

    onthespot Deluxe Dozens

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    I agree blue. the flights are the giveaway when they sometimes both have lighter down a black bird can look almost blue, but if their hard flight feathers are blueish, they are genetically blue. If she is your best bird to breed to lavender, I'd say go for it and just choose the black chicks to go on with. Blue is about the easiest thing in the world to breed out, especially with only one copy of the gene. If she is split to lav, that complicates things, but if you had few choices I'd still use her and worry about the blue later.
     
  5. iluvmychicks

    iluvmychicks Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I agree with "onthespot" another way to tell is the undercolor. Dark blues will have a blueish undercolor almost a slate color, if it's black it will be a dark gray, smokey color. I agree the show girl looks blue to me. Do you have lavender in your blue line?? I've heard blues carrying lavender can create a darker based blue, also breeding blues to blacks can produce a dark blue.

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  6. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    In the first photos she looks blue, but in later ones black. Photos can be really difficult in determining these kinds of close calls--just a bit of a difference in lighting can make all the difference in how the photo looks. And that is not accounting for different computer displays. Your best bet is to take her outside in bright, but indirect natural lighting and compare to a bird you are absolutely certain is black.
     
  7. AHappychick

    AHappychick Wanna-be Farmer

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    Quote:thats sort of wht I tried to do with her an the blk silkie you see in the pic, its so hard with her, I guess I will wait a few more months. she is not a split to lav, I was going to use her to make splits and bring in the sg gene [​IMG] I think she has good type and my other sg are grey/grey partridge colors so they are throwing a lot of weird colors and I thought this one would make things easier.

    I will have to look at her undertones again later also, I was hoping there was a feather shaft thing as with lavenders [​IMG]

    eta while I have you on the thread Sonoran what do you think of them over all?
     
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  8. Bantimna

    Bantimna Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:thats sort of wht I tried to do with her an the blk silkie you see in the pic, its so hard with her, I guess I will wait a few more months. she is not a split to lav, I was going to use her to make splits and bring in the sg gene [​IMG] I think she has good type and my other sg are grey/grey partridge colors so they are throwing a lot of weird colors and I thought this one would make things easier.

    I will have to look at her undertones again later also, I was hoping there was a feather shaft thing as with lavenders [​IMG]

    eta while I have you on the thread Sonoran what do you think of them over all?

    Yes I think you should wait a few more months don't get dissapointed at all just wait!
     
  9. AHappychick

    AHappychick Wanna-be Farmer

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    yes maybe disapointed is to stong a word, I just find it very hard to hatch solid blacks and especially solid blk show girls, either wy she will find a place in my breeding program. [​IMG]
     
  10. blackdotte

    blackdotte Chillin' With My Peeps

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    What is the sg gene you refer to?
    David
     

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