Recommendations for best waterer for rubber hog feeder

tweetzone86

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Hello all!

So my coop electricity is somewhat...well let's just say we've got a 12 gauge extension cord running out there because the previous owners knew nothing about electricity and it's a wonder they didn't electrocute themselves and my shed didn't blow up.

Ahem...suffice to say that I have two electricity needs and am trying to figure out the best solution. I've got a 32 watt LED shop light out there right now, but my father is an electrician (well, he knows as much as one from work experience but could never afford the actual journeyman test) and he said as long as it's not in the chicken area (bedding, fire hazard) and I don't overload the circuit then for this winter only I can put a power strip on the end of the extension cord so I can plug in a watering heater and the light.

So my next question is- does anyone have some fire-safe ideas to heat their water? Due to many failed attempts at alternatives, their waterer consists of a 16" or so diameter rubber hog feeder (looks like a black rubber dog dish) from TSC elevated above the bedding on two cinder blocks (since the chickens kept filling it with chopped straw when it wasn't elevated). This is the cleanest way I've managed to get their water, but it's most definitely not heated.

We get pretty cold winters here, the daytime temps have been known to drop into the single digits and nighttime below zero on the coldest days. Their coop/our shed is insulated, but the chicken door and a ventilation window are open continuously during the day and the vent window at night. So it's not exactly warm in there per se.

Here's an illustrated photo of my setup, to give you an idea:

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So the back half is their coop area, as we have built in cabinets and such from prev owner in the rest of the shed. I don't want them to be able to peck at the cord for fear of an electrical short in the coop area itself (which is separated by a framed wall with chicken wire and a chicken wire door from the rest of the shed).

But there are days where I have several dr appointments, and I'm going to be having surgery (God willing- fighting Medicaid right now to pay for it) sometime this fall. My husband works away from home FT, and no matter how good they are at chopping wood, I can't expect my 6 and 9 year old to chop ice. And I won't be able to do any chopping either (hysterectomy and such so abdominal surgery- axe-swinging will be a BIG no-no for months).

I can plug the heater in to the strip outside of "coop zone" aka away from the straw bedding, but I need to know the best way y'all have found of configuring a heater for a waterer, and what heater you think will work in the heavy rubber hog feeder dish. I can run an extension cord from waterer to power strip if need be.

(Oh, prob important note- my chickens' feed and water are in the coop area itself, rather than outside. Their run, as you can see, is open to the elements and they go inside to eat and drink (I do put water in the run in another hog dish during summer though, but not winter) and that way they can eat and drink prior to me letting them out because ain't no way on God's green earth am I getting up at 2 am to let them out in winter!).

So water dish is inside the coop area, I can run an extension cord if need be but I need to know what heater I can get that won't melt the hog dish, will keep water thawed, and has some sort of configuration that the chickens can't peck at the cord and cause an electrical fire. I don't want fried chicken :(

Thanks!
 

Aceoky

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IF - it is the same rubber dish we have from TSC , the ice will "pop right out" of there easily enough (no chopping required) also if placed in the sun they thaw fairly well in surprisingly cold temps!
 

cavemanrich

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There are multiple ways to achieve what you need . I use a Heated Dog bowl. and have some other things as well. The heated bowl is thermostatically controlled and uses 25 watts. When it is warm it turns off.
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Here is a thread about the subject that you can find out very much info what others have done. I posted there.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/how-do-you-keep-your-water-from-freezing.1211388/
WISHING YOU BEST,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and :welcome
 

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There are multiple ways to achieve what you need . I use a Heated Dog bowl. and have some other things as well. The heated bowl is thermostatically controlled and uses 25 watts. When it is warm it turns off.
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Here is a thread about the subject that you can find out very much info what others have done. I posted there.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/how-do-you-keep-your-water-from-freezing.1211388/
WISHING YOU BEST,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and :welcome
I just bought one of those dog dishes. Think I’m gonna love it.
 

cavemanrich

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I just bought one of those dog dishes. Think I’m gonna love it.
There are also some neat tricks that can be utilized . To keep the water from getting soiled by chicken gumdrops and also add the water quantity available,,,,,,,,,, use a gallon jug with water filled. With cap closed on. ,,,,, but about 1 1/2 inch from the bottom on the side make a small hole. Hole must be lower than rim of bowl. The water will come out of the gallon jug as soon as water level in bowl allows it. Chickens do not stand on rim to soil water.:thumbsup The small cap on top of gallon too small for chickens to perch on also. Chickens drink water from the moat created with this setup.
 

llombardo

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I got extension cords running to power strips. I put the power strips in a bucket that snaps shut--I put holes in the side to put wires through and covered with duct tape. I got extension cords I side pvc pipe because I just feel safer that way.

I have a heated nipple waterer that they still really don't use. I gave a couple heated dog bowls if needed. I just worry about the roosters waddles with frostbite and bowls. I put a heated water bottle in the coop, it seems easier to use then the nipple waterer.

I use flax bedding which is fire retardant.

I also like the gallon in the heated water bowl idea.
 
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There are also some neat tricks that can be utilized . To keep the water from getting soiled by chicken gumdrops and also add the water quantity available,,,,,,,,,, use a gallon jug with water filled. With cap closed on. ,,,,, but about 1 1/2 inch from the bottom on the side make a small hole. Hole must be lower than rim of bowl. The water will come out of the gallon jug as soon as water level in bowl allows it. Chickens do not stand on rim to soil water.:thumbsup The small cap on top of gallon too small for chickens to perch on also. Chickens drink water from the moat created with this setup.
Now that’s an idea. I actually just put it out tonight.
Thanks
 

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There are also some neat tricks that can be utilized . To keep the water from getting soiled by chicken gumdrops and also add the water quantity available,,,,,,,,,, use a gallon jug with water filled. With cap closed on. ,,,,, but about 1 1/2 inch from the bottom on the side make a small hole. Hole must be lower than rim of bowl. The water will come out of the gallon jug as soon as water level in bowl allows it. Chickens do not stand on rim to soil water.:thumbsup The small cap on top of gallon too small for chickens to perch on also. Chickens drink water from the moat created with this setup.

Thank's, good tip! I'm going to try this one with those pan's and get rid of my galvanized ones!
 

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