Rooster with mass in neck, possible tumor, thymus response -- Marek's

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Nambroth, Mar 10, 2013.

  1. Nambroth

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    Hello folks,

    I am mostly making this post to document this situation in case anyone else has had a similar experience or searches for this problem in the future.

    I have a Large Fowl Cochin rooster, Trousers, approximately 10 months old as of writing this. I pay close attention to the behaviors and health of my birds and regularly handle them and check for problems. Yesterday afternoon, I noticed that Trousers was a lot less enthusiastic about free-ranging than normal, and seemed lethargic. He's normally a food hound but was disinterested in food. Checking him over, his crop felt normal, a mix of liquid water and feed. I noticed that when he would bend over to peck or eat, he would flinch just a little, then stand back up as if the position was causing him discomfort. I massaged his crop a bit until the water drained, and then he seemed to perk up a bit, so I thought maybe he had a simple blockage and I removed it. He ate some before roosting.

    This morning I checked on him first thing, and took note that his crop had emptied normally and that his droppings were very typical/normal. But he was still lethargic, and did not eat at all in the morning feeding, which is is very unusual for him. I brought him indoors and felt his crop very carefully, and was a bit surprised to find a slippery, fleshy ball inside, as big as a 'shooter' marble. I have dealt with hard masses in the crop and impaction before, and this does not at all feel similar. This is a small, fleshy feeling, slippery, very much like a tumor.

    I cooked him an egg and he tried to eat it, but again leaning over seemed to cause him discomfort, and he would straighten. I fed the egg to him up high and he was able to eat it with great enthusiasm. Aware that he has something wrong, I carefully monitored to make sure the egg didn't become impacted, and he was able to pass it normally through his crop.

    He continues to poop, and they are normal droppings.

    He hasn't had anything to drink for me yet today, and I will be encouraging wet foods and liquids.

    He is obviously feeling unwell, as he tried to crow twice and it seemed as if it was either uncomfortable or painful.

    I would consider crop surgery, but this does not seem like an impaction, and if it is indeed a tumor in there I am not equipped to safely remove it.

    As he is a valued pet and a very good rooster, we will be taking him to the vet. I have a good vet that is very knowledgeable in birds and sees chickens, it's just a bit of a drive to get to her. They are not open today so I'll be calling first thing in the morning.

    I will keep you updated!

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    EDIT: This rooster has since passed away, much to our heartbreak. He had Marek's disease. See more: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...sible-tumor-thymus-response/160#post_10747769
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2013
  2. shadow rabbit10

    shadow rabbit10 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I hope he is well! :( Hopefully it is benign and easy to remove. tumors suck.
     
  3. NovaAman

    NovaAman Overrun With Chickens

    Aw, poor Trousers! I hope its something very simple. What would Derp do with out Trousers! The girls all love them some Trousers!
     
  4. froggiesheins

    froggiesheins Overrun With Chickens

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    Nambroth, my prayers are with you that Trousers can make it thru this problem.... :love
     
  5. drumstick diva

    drumstick diva Still crazy after all these years. Premium Member

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    I hope we didn't jinx him by heaping praise. Poor Trousers, it came on so sudden maybe it is some object that got lodged there. Hope he has the very best outcome.
     
  6. Bitterroot

    Bitterroot Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Sending healing thoughts for Trousers. If it's allowed here, I'm sure if you posted your vet's info that bill wouldn't be any problem for you. ;)
     
  7. Duffysma

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    So sorry that Mr Trousers may be ill. I will be keeping him and you in my thoughts and hoping for a good outcome.
     
  8. Nambroth

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    We were able to secure an appointment this morning and made the two hour drive without a problem. The vet was very good with Trousers, and indeed felt that the unknown lump in his crop was causing his problems. She took a sample of it and did some in-house aspiration of the lump and it is currently unknown if it is a tumor or something else produced by the body. It is not an impaction or compressed food. Because of the location of the growth, it inhibits food from passing from his crop down to his lower digestion (gizzard) unless the crop is massaged to press food up and around the mass, which I had been doing.

    Today, before his appointment, he refused to drink and only ate a few mealworms, because they are irresistible.

    We left him in their care overnight and they will surgically remove the mass and have it sent away for pathological testing in the morning (3/11/2013). My fingers are crossed that everything goes well. As you can probably imagine, the procedure is hitting us hard in the pocketbook.

    I might have been able to operate on a crop impaction myself, but careful removal of a tumor/mass that is attached to the crop, very close to the narrow passageway to the inner body (gizzard, through the clavicle) is beyond my ability to safely do at home, and without proper tools and anesthesia.
     
  9. shadow rabbit10

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    Hopefully it will go well!
     
  10. drumstick diva

    drumstick diva Still crazy after all these years. Premium Member

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    we are all hoping for that
     

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