Hello to al! I have been reading posts on this forum for months now! Thank you for all of your help already! I've been working on the husband for an loooooooooong time, and finally got him to give in on my chicken raising dream. We are in a very suburban area and are looking to start small with 2-3 chickens. In the spirit of wanting to keep it simple, I am considering buying a pre-made $300-ish coop with an attached run. They look very stylish and finished, which is a plus for our residential situation (at least 6 neighboring houses can view our yard at any time). However, I feel they all have one major design flaw. The roosting pole is always right next to the nesting box, just inches off the floor. There is a handy tray to pull out and clean, but the chicken would have to tread through the poopiest spot to enter the nesting box, which is also at floor level. In my mind, I'd want a taller coop with the nesting box a few inches off the floor (to prevent mess from getting tossed up into the box), then a poop shelf and roosting pole above the nesting box. It seems like this would be so much cleaner and prevent me from having to replace all of the bedding as often. The alternative is to build our own, which we are very capable of doing, but I fear we will end up sinking well over $400 plus the time and effort into it to make it look aesthetically pleasing. Am I over thinking the mess situation with just a few chickens? Should I keep it simple and buy pre-made to start? Or am I smarter to jump in and "buy the whole farm" so to spea,and make the more expensive, better-designed coop?