Russian Orloff pullet or cockerel?

Discussion in 'What Breed Or Gender is This?' started by MaryZoe, Nov 21, 2018.

  1. MaryZoe

    MaryZoe Songster

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    I am soooo over roosters at the moment. I was hoping that one of my two Russian Orloff juvys might be a pullet. Any guesses?
    This first 5 photos are the one I am holding out hope for. The second five shots I’m pretty sure is a roo.

    They’re about 9 or 10 weeks old. 104E2749-60E9-49D8-B95A-2D3BDBF6C6B7.jpeg 92BD12FB-B03D-4858-AB39-61E985EC6E74.jpeg 77A46AF9-1C60-42ED-BA6F-D6773B63BDC5.jpeg 749904F4-1130-4CCC-946D-F76746C8AE52.jpeg FFD65D9B-FD0C-49B5-B7C7-1CAD0DCE892A.jpeg 0E789121-0F56-4017-BD91-2359008BD9E1.jpeg 5F4166D3-C237-42D5-99C3-7FAB7156D746.jpeg C0A8540D-2B0C-4746-8B29-07D5426A6142.jpeg 17D15EE7-FF7A-44FB-B372-1A9C74B898A0.jpeg
     
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  2. sourland

    sourland Broody Magician

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    How old are they? I believe both are cockerels, but I am not 100 % on that.
     
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  3. MaryZoe

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    Hatched around September 8th or 9th. About 9-10 weeks.
    So sad if they're both roos. :(
     
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  4. MaryZoe

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    My hope for the first one is that its hackle feathers look rounded to me. Though it also might have some saddle feathers developing. I was soooo hoping for a couple, at least.
     
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    Definitely cockerel.
     
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    sourland Broody Magician

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    They are a bit young for male specific feathering. I made my 'guess' on conformation and stance which at this point can be misleading.
     
  7. JedJackson

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    Orloffs must be slow to develop, because these look younger than 9 to 10 weeks to me. Some close ups of the combs and wattles would help.

    My gut reaction is that the first one is a cockerel and the second may be a pullet. But that's just a first impression. I think you would do best to wait a couple more weeks before trying again. In the mean time, watch comb size and redness. Big & red usually means a cockerel.
     
  8. MaryZoe

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    Both look like cockerels? Anyone want them? Argh!
    If they are both cockerels, that means that the latest "straight run" batch of a dozen rare breeds I bought from a Greenfire auction resulted in 10 cockerels and only 2 pullets. When I confronted them with the statistically improbable ratio of cockerels to pullets they became incensed and suggested I was accusing them of lying (they said they have no way of sexing their chicks). I've won 4 auctions from them and every shipment has been cockerel heavy--from 4 pullets to 8 cockerels to this one with just 2 pullets. Seems odd, no?
    On the other hand, the eggs I bought from them resulted in 50/50 ratios, as we would expect. Grrrr….
     
  9. MaryZoe

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    If either is a pullet, I will be happy. They're quite flighty, so it's hard to get near them. Their combs are also somewhat flattish, but definitely pink. My fingers are crossed.
     
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  10. JedJackson

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    It does seem suspiciously odd. And they do sex many of their breeds, so I don't know why they would say they have no way of doing it.
     

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