My hope for the first one is that its hackle feathers look rounded to me. Though it also might have some saddle feathers developing. I was soooo hoping for a couple, at least.
If either is a pullet, I will be happy. They're quite flighty, so it's hard to get near them. Their combs are also somewhat flattish, but definitely pink. My fingers are crossed.Orloffs must be slow to develop, because these look younger than 9 to 10 weeks to me. Some close ups of the combs and wattles would help.
My gut reaction is that the first one is a cockerel and the second may be a pullet. But that's just a first impression. I think you would do best to wait a couple more weeks before trying again. In the mean time, watch comb size and redness. Big & red usually means a cockerel.
It does seem suspiciously odd. And they do sex many of their breeds, so I don't know why they would say they have no way of doing it.Both look like cockerels? Anyone want them? Argh!
If they are both cockerels, that means that the latest "straight run" batch of a dozen rare breeds I bought from a Greenfire auction resulted in 10 cockerels and only 2 pullets. When I confronted them with the statistically improbable ratio of cockerels to pullets they became incensed and suggested I was accusing them of lying (they said they have no way of sexing their chicks). I've won 4 auctions from them and every shipment has been cockerel heavy--from 4 pullets to 8 cockerels to this one with just 2 pullets. Seems odd, no?
On the other hand, the eggs I bought from them resulted in 50/50 ratios, as we would expect. Grrrr….